No offense to the good Chief, et al, but STFU. We cannot have our military forces doing this. Obama has caused enough damage without having enlisted people breaking ranks with thier command structure. Enemies see this, not just us. As for Syria, well, I agree with my fellow Chief. I am retired, however, and he is not. If the order does come, we do not mutiny, we just do.
and if those same military forces were ordered to go door to door taking away guns, bibles and children from US dissidents would you say the same thing?
They’re taught not to obey illegal orders and the Nazis were convicted (some executed) after stating “I was just following orders” remember?
Lt Calley was just “following orders” at My Lai too...
Unless Congress actually declares war (i.e. not just allowing action)- any action that our military takes is likely to violate some provision of the Geneva or Hague Conventions.
Any order given which violates the conventions (i.e. the ones we are a party to, we didn’t sign them all) is an illegal order.
In the past, we have generally had reason to be involved in certain conflicts, excepting Yugoslavia; we were attacked / an ally was attacked / or treaty provisions were not upheld. Here we have the CinC who simply wants to teach someone a lesson. We have no military objective, we have not been attacked, our allies have not been attacked and no treaty between the US and Syria has been violated. Hell, we can’t even be certain that Assad was even responsible, unless we rely on something seared into our Sec’ of State’s brain ...
Even if Congress DOES declare war, the US would be violating treaties to which we are party and are the law of the land.
No matter which way it goes, if we go over there, our soldiers will be carrying out illegal orders.
“If the order does come, we do not mutiny, we just do.”
What we have now is the equivalent of LBJ sending our troops to Viet Nam to fight for the Commies.
How would you fell about that order?
How would you respond to an order to disarm citizens?
Or to machine gun those who don”t comply?
Our military does not exist to protect the President, it exists to protect US from all enemies foreign and domestic.
Right now our worst enemy is domestic.
“If the order does come, we do not mutiny, we just do.”
Whereas I have great respect for the commitment to duty of which you speak, there are most definitely exceptions to the ‘we just do’ credo, even if this particular instance isn’t one of them. The most important duty of the military is to protect the people of the United States, our homeland, and our Constitutional governmental system with its guaranteed individual liberty. When asked to perform an act that is against the above, (like shooting at Americans), ‘we just do’ does not apply. Just commenting though. I know what you meant.
those active military that can’t or won’t serve the potus- should leave the military. get out
if they stay in because they “need the money” or are “careerists” then accept that you are paid mercenaries and follow the rules.
“...we just do.”
Anything? Really?
It’s an illegal order. It is providing aid and comfort to our enemies.
Just like every German who turned on the showers at Auschwitz followed orders...
>> If the order does come, we do not mutiny, we just do.
The “I was just following orders” defense does not work and hasn’t worked since 1945. No one signed up to be Al Qaeda’s air force. We don’t need regime change in Syria. We need regime change in Washington DC.