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John Kerry: Less than a quarter of Syrian rebels are jihadists
American Thinker ^ | 09/05/2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 09/05/2013 6:40:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

House Homeland Security Committee chairman Mike McCaul was "stunned" by Kerry's assertion. The briefings members of Congress had been getting stated that the number was closer to 50% - and that may be lowballing it too.

Reuters calls Mr. Kerry out for his lie:

Secretary of State John Kerry's public assertions that moderate Syrian opposition groups are growing in influence appear to be at odds with estimates by U.S. and European intelligence sources and nongovernmental experts, who say Islamic extremists remain by far the fiercest and best-organized rebel elements.

At congressional hearings this week, while making the case for President Barack Obama's plan for limited military action in Syria, Kerry asserted that the armed opposition to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad "has increasingly become more defined by its moderation, more defined by the breadth of its membership, and more defined by its adherence to some, you know, democratic process and to an all-inclusive, minority-protecting constitution.

"And the opposition is getting stronger by the day," Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday.

U.S. and allied intelligence sources and private experts on the Syrian conflict suggest that assessment is optimistic.

While the radical Islamists among the rebels may not be numerically superior to more moderate fighters, they say, Islamist groups like the al Qaeda-aligned Nusra Front are better organized, armed and trained.

Kerry's remarks represented a change in tone by the Obama administration, which for more than two years has been wary of sending U.S. arms to the rebels, citing fears they could fall into radical Islamists' hands.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; jihadists; kerry; syria
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1 posted on 09/05/2013 6:40:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
It should also be noted that the civilian opposition group - the Syrian National Coalition - is dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood, described as a "moderate" Islamist organization.
2 posted on 09/05/2013 6:41:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, John, just the generals, the colonels and the majors. The troops are a mixed lot.


3 posted on 09/05/2013 6:41:41 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: SeekAndFind

He sounds like such a fricking dufus in those hearings. What a jokes we have in high places.


4 posted on 09/05/2013 6:41:56 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: SeekAndFind

$1 of U.S. Support to 1 Al Qaeda terrorist is too much for me.


5 posted on 09/05/2013 6:42:22 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: SeekAndFind

By the time he’s done with his “clarifications”, the number will be closer to 99%.


6 posted on 09/05/2013 6:43:24 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: b4its2late

He should be in prison for the war crimes, he said he committed during the Vietnam War, not Secretary of State.


7 posted on 09/05/2013 6:43:55 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: b4its2late
Is it just me? Or did anyone notice a change in John Kerry's chin? It has become shorter when he was making the interview rounds last Sunday...

8 posted on 09/05/2013 6:44:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If we stay out of it, that percentage could be cut in half in a year.


9 posted on 09/05/2013 6:44:35 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: proxy_user
Yep. Maybe. And maybe JFK is just lying to us again.

But let's give him the benefit of the doubt and concede that only 25% of the rebels are jihadis. Which other rebel faction do you think is nearly as well organized?

Did JFK learn anything from the so-called Arab spring in Egypt?

10 posted on 09/05/2013 6:44:45 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind
“The briefings members of Congress had been getting stated that the number was closer to 50% - and that may be lowballing it too.”

That means AMERICAN SOLDIERS would have 1:2 odds of being maimed or killed by their ‘Syrian allies’

11 posted on 09/05/2013 6:45:01 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( w)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve noticed it. He’s had all kinds of work done.


12 posted on 09/05/2013 6:45:32 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: SeekAndFind

But luckily, Al Qaeda in Syria are the effective fighters and leaders.

See tagline.


13 posted on 09/05/2013 6:46:22 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Are Marines required to salute Al Qaeda yet?)
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To: proxy_user
The OLD LOOK JOHN KERRY


THE NEW LOOK JOHN KERRY

14 posted on 09/05/2013 6:46:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Its pretty clear that regime change is a prime goal of these “limited strikes”. It will get very messy and bloody. Regime change is the only effective way to dismantle the Iranian missile batteries positioned in forward Syrian locations that are pointed at Israel. Unless they are removed Israel cannot safely attack Iran’s nuclear facilities.


15 posted on 09/05/2013 6:47:48 AM PDT by allendale
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To: SeekAndFind

leave lurch alone. he’s working very hard. to get us into a war.


16 posted on 09/05/2013 6:48:29 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh THAT’S comforting!

Less than a quarter!

So if I wanted to financially and materially support an organization that was ‘only’ 25% Aryan Brotherhood I’m sure the feds would be OK with that too.

Right?


17 posted on 09/05/2013 6:48:38 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ConservativeMan55

“I’ve noticed it. He’s had all kinds of work done.”

Lifestyle Lift


18 posted on 09/05/2013 6:49:00 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( w)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why do people think plastic surgery is gonna make them look good? He looks ridiculous. His old horse face looked better. And is that a rug I detect?


19 posted on 09/05/2013 6:49:03 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy - kerry - he’s a real piece of work, ain’t he?


20 posted on 09/05/2013 6:49:53 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: SeekAndFind

This is like saying 25% of our military are communists. Is that a good thing that it’s below 50%, 40% what is Kerry talking about?


21 posted on 09/05/2013 6:51:05 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SeekAndFind

HAHAHA!

And less than 1/4 of the guys fighting for the confederacy were slave owners.


22 posted on 09/05/2013 6:51:27 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually, I did notice it when I saw footage of the hearings.


23 posted on 09/05/2013 6:52:37 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Whenever I see him or 0 on tv, I change the channel. Can’t stand to see them or listen to either of them. Even Putin knows they lie. And one liar can spot another one in a second. Kerry’s looking pretty sickly, I’ll say that for sure.


24 posted on 09/05/2013 6:53:16 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: 1Old Pro
From HOTAIR.COM

Kerry insists, as does John McCain, that the Free Syrian Army controls the opposition in Syria and that radical Islamist elements comprise only a small percentage of rebel fighting units. However, intelligence from US and European agencies put the radical Islamists near parity in numbers, and far more in control than Kerry and the Obama administration acknowledge:

Secretary of State John Kerry’s public assertions that moderate Syrian opposition groups are growing in influence appear to be at odds with estimates by U.S. and European intelligence sources and nongovernmental experts, who say Islamic extremists remain by far the fiercest and best-organized rebel elements. …

U.S. and allied intelligence sources and private experts on the Syrian conflict suggest that assessment is optimistic.

While the radical Islamists among the rebels may not be numerically superior to more moderate fighters, they say, Islamist groups like the al Qaeda-aligned Nusra Front are better organized, armed and trained.

Kerry insists that FSA’s General Salim Idriss has control, and the opposition is even holding elections for its leaders:

Kerry replied: “I just don’t agree that a majority are al Qaeda and the bad guys. That’s not true. There are about 70,000 to 100,000 oppositionists … Maybe 15 percent to 25 percent might be in one group or another who are what we would deem to be bad guys.

“There is a real moderate opposition that exists. General Idriss is running the military arm of that,” Kerry continued, referring to General Salim Idriss, head of the rebel Free Syrian Army. Increasingly, he said, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states are funneling assistance through Idriss.

According to Foreign Policy, though — hardly a conservative mouthpiece on foreign affairs — Idriss’ grasp on the opposition is crumbling, and may have been ephemeral all along. Instead, his commanders have suddenly developed a taste for working with the elements that Kerry insists are too small to matter:

As the United States moves closer to taking military action against the Syrian government, the leadership of the mainstream armed opposition force has chosen a curious time to appear to be on the verge of unraveling. Known generically as the Free Syrian Army (FSA), this assortment of mostly secular defecting Sunni Arab officers and mostly Islamist volunteers has attempted several reorganizations. The most recent of these is now seriously threatened by a resignation threat from senior commanders. …

On August 22, four of the five front commanders threatened to resign from the SMC, promising to break “red lines” and work “with all forces fighting in Syria,” a clear reference to the war’s growing Salafist-Jihadist contingent. The statement was read by Colonel Fatih Hasun, who is the commander of the SMC’s Homs Front and the deputy chief-of-staff, that is to say, Idriss’s deputy and the most senior officer inside the country. Hasun added that rebels would no longer respect demands by outside powers that they not attempt to take over government-controlled chemical weapons sites. In addition to demanding action in response to the government’s use of chemical weapons in Damascus, Hasun also demanded better weapons and said they were tiring of the “false promises of those who call themselves Friends of Syria.”

While the resignation seemed tentative, Hasun was less equivocal about the other red line — the opposition’s Salafist-Jihadist groups, Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) — both of which the United States has designated as terrorist entities linked to al Qaeda. Directly behind Hasun on the wall was an Islamic flag, with a pre-Assad Syria FSA flag draped to the side, a nod perhaps to the Salafists. Sitting to his right was a bearded cleric in Salafist garb. He directly stated, “we call upon all” FSA units to work with all others fighting the regime. Adding insult to injury, on August 25 Muhammad Tabnaja, field commander in Latakia for the Ahfad al-Faruq Brigade in Latakia, resigned citing the lack of support from the SMC.

If Idriss is in control and opposed to the radical Islamist elements, he would have acted forcefully to put down this rebellion within the rebellion. In the event, though, Idriss apparently couldn’t do anything:

Most telling is what happened when the SMC’s decision removing Akaydi was announced. Akaydi ignored it, then after brigade-level commanders within the AMC rejected the decision, he did an interview in which he mocked the SMC as made up of people “who are into travel and hotels and have no connection to what is happening on the ground.” He did clear Idriss of involvement, however, and Idriss promptly apologized to Akaydi and then traveled to Aleppo to meet with him and praise him. …

Idriss responded to Hasun’s threatened resignation by saying he “rejected” it, as if he had the power to do so.

Is the White House following the intelligence of its own agencies and that of its allies? Is it even following the public events that demonstrate the lack of effectiveness in the FSA and the rise of al-Qaeda-affiliated leadership in the Syrian rebellion? Or are they just so concerned about preventing Barack Obama’s humiliation that they don’t care?

25 posted on 09/05/2013 6:53:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals are insecure people by nature. Facial work appears to be par the course for limo lefties.


26 posted on 09/05/2013 6:55:13 AM PDT by MWS
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To: SeekAndFind

Is Jean Fraude Kerry thinking about another try at the presidency in 2016?


27 posted on 09/05/2013 6:55:24 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

What did this mastermind do go over there and count them? Only the Demonkrats can act this way. Pieces of crap that never stood up for anything when not in power and now they want to be the hawks.


28 posted on 09/05/2013 6:56:39 AM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Response from Putin (nypost)

.. The Russian president ridiculed the Obama administration’s claim that Syrian rebels are not dominated by al Qaeda-linked terrorists.

“They lie beautifully,of course,” Putin said in a wide-ranging interview just before he and Obama meet face to face at the G-20 summit.

He called Secretary of State John Kerry’s testimony about the rebels before a Senate committee on Tuesday “unpleasant and surprising for me.”

“We proceed from the assumption that they are decent people,” Putin said. “But he is lying and knows he is lying. It’s sad.”


29 posted on 09/05/2013 6:57:19 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, John...

Only 25% of that Dom Perignon Rose 2002 that you’re sipping is made up of fecal matter.

Drink up!


30 posted on 09/05/2013 6:57:45 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: SeekAndFind
Did he count every single one and give them a form to fill out asking them?

Kerry is an idiot.

Everyone in a decision making position is a jihadist. Almost everyone else is too.

31 posted on 09/05/2013 6:59:30 AM PDT by detective
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To: SeekAndFind

That doesn’t mean the remaining 75% are displaced Vermonters yearning for town hall meetings and Ben & Jerry’s Ice Cream.


32 posted on 09/05/2013 7:00:42 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SeekAndFind

If we try to support the non-jihadists, we will own them, and they’ll eventually end-up like our allies in S. Vietnam, Cambodia, and Afghanistan. (The only reason I exclude our Iraqi allies from this fate is that they can survive on their oil.)


33 posted on 09/05/2013 7:03:20 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: SeekAndFind

Kll them all, let Allsh do the math


34 posted on 09/05/2013 7:03:26 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: SeekAndFind
Is it just me? Or did anyone notice a change in John Kerry's chin?

It's not just you, they're even talking about it at the DUmp.

Strictly from an appearance standpoint, the old Kerry was a little goofy looking, but except for his brief experiment with orangeness, not objectionable at all.

The "new" Kerry looks bizarre, as if every photograph of him was Photoshopped to give him some sort of macho manly look.

35 posted on 09/05/2013 7:11:13 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The MB proved in Egypt that a small minority of them can move in and assume control once they get a foot in the door. Once Assad is gone, they’ll start killing anyone that stands in their way, and Obama know it.


36 posted on 09/05/2013 7:11:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: SeekAndFind
They lie with such ease. Here's a recent video of a ceremony celebrating the merging of the FSA with al-Qaeda. FSA Battalions merge with al-Qaeda in Damascus and Alleppo
37 posted on 09/05/2013 7:12:53 AM PDT by Gorilla44
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To: allendale

USAF is in the way.


38 posted on 09/05/2013 7:13:09 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t trust a single word that Kerry says.

I don’t think he knows the difference between ketchup & mustard.


39 posted on 09/05/2013 7:17:54 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SeekAndFind

Where are Larry Moe and Curly Joe when we need them?


40 posted on 09/05/2013 7:18:21 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe his other cyborg body was in for repairs.


41 posted on 09/05/2013 7:19:35 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: SeekAndFind

Note to Capt. Ketchup, it took less than 2 doz. camel turds to cause 9/11 so a quarter of the population might be a problem.

Let their circular firing squad do its job. Its free for us and much safer for our troops.


42 posted on 09/05/2013 7:20:26 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama and Kerry approve of using U.S. military might to support the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaeda — both deemed terrorist organizations? Gee, how do the political idiots in Congress square this with our GWOT? Who have we been spending treasure and shedding blood to rid the world?
43 posted on 09/05/2013 7:25:27 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah. And a anti-Muslim video caused Benghazi!


44 posted on 09/05/2013 7:35:52 AM PDT by tennmountainman (Stop Worrying And Just Learn To Love The Bomb!)
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To: allendale

It will only be “limited” if others decide NOT to strike back. Then it becomes WW3.


45 posted on 09/05/2013 7:39:04 AM PDT by tennmountainman (Stop Worrying And Just Learn To Love The Bomb!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, and only 10% of the old Soviet Union belonged to the Communist Party yet they won every election. Can we get an audit of that 25%?

Pray for America to Wake Up


46 posted on 09/05/2013 7:48:18 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like they copies G Bush’s chin.
They say his wife is a boitch, may explain changes, however, The Obama has tendencies that suck the life out of you........Doran Grey?


47 posted on 09/05/2013 7:54:42 AM PDT by BilLies (WHOSE YOUR DADDY, BARAKO?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The hand grenade propelled rice that got embedded in his a** must have migrated to his brain. Wonder if he’ll put in for a new Purple Heart?


48 posted on 09/05/2013 7:57:08 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Black Agnes

The Sub-Saharan African Americans are less than 15% of the population of the US and look at the havoc they wreak in the country; and they, officially, most of them aren’t even trying to over throw the regime.


49 posted on 09/05/2013 8:00:56 AM PDT by BilLies (WHOSE YOUR DADDY, BARAKO?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lurch looks like a comic-book supervillain these days. How seriously can you take a guy on this topic who once claimed the American military was full of war criminals? Did you take a poll, Johnny?


50 posted on 09/05/2013 8:16:32 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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