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Six British soldiers allegedly rob, assault off-duty New York police officer
FoxNews ^ | September 3, 2013

Posted on 09/06/2013 5:51:03 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Six British soldiers in town for a rugby match against the NYPD have been arrested for allegedly beating up and robbing an off-duty American police officer in New York City.

Sky News reports the Royal Regiment of Scotland soldiers were at a bar in Manhattan Friday when the police officer began chatting with a woman who was with the troops. The BBC reports the soldiers are Fijan nationals serving in the 1st Scots Guard.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New York
KEYWORDS: british; newyork

1 posted on 09/06/2013 5:51:03 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

they took his cell phone


2 posted on 09/06/2013 5:51:58 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Six against one. Real tough guys.


3 posted on 09/06/2013 6:00:39 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: driftdiver
Should'a said; "Fiji? Sure mate, lemmee buy y'all a pint...." but .. no-ooo
4 posted on 09/06/2013 6:02:29 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: wideawake

A group in a foreign country is a group ... so would you.


5 posted on 09/06/2013 6:03:10 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

The cop hit on a woman who was with six soldiers, what the heck did he expect.


6 posted on 09/06/2013 6:04:31 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
It says something about a nation when six tourists can come there and feel free to beat up a local cop.

I'm not sure what, but it can't be good.

7 posted on 09/06/2013 6:07:45 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: driftdiver
The cop hit on a woman who was with six soldiers, what the heck did he expect.

I'm sure he expected the peasants to bow down to him - he's a cop after all.

8 posted on 09/06/2013 6:11:52 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: driftdiver

Hitting on a woman with a group of Polynesian men (he was lucky they were from Fiji, Samoans would probably have killed him) serving in a Scots regiment was fairly suicidal. Double whammy. That doesn’t condone the beating but it was practically a Darwin Award winning idea.


9 posted on 09/06/2013 6:27:39 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: from occupied ga
He was off-duty, not in uniform, and decided to start a conversation with a woman at a bar.

She apparently was not involved with any of them, she had apparently just encountered them minutes earlier.

He probably expected these louts to behave like human beings and not like mindless criminal savages.

10 posted on 09/06/2013 6:56:09 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

You’re so predictable.


11 posted on 09/06/2013 6:57:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: driftdiver

Could be he was doing more than innocent chatting up. I wan to know what he said that set them off.


12 posted on 09/06/2013 7:00:55 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: from occupied ga
If his day job wasn't being a cop - and he was a longshoreman or an accountant instead - and you read about an American citizen being beaten and robbed by a gang of six foreigners, in his own hometown, for the offense of making conversation with a girl at a bar, you would be outraged.

But, because of his job description, your reaction is completely different and, frankly, ridiculous.

I'm not the predictable one.

13 posted on 09/06/2013 7:04:11 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: bgill
Could be he was doing more than innocent chatting up. I wan to know what he said that set them off.

The blame the victim vibe is strong on this thread.

14 posted on 09/06/2013 7:05:10 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Victim? NY Cops dont play the victim which is probably why he got his butt whipped.

He probably shoulda minded his manners.


15 posted on 09/06/2013 7:25:10 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: skeeter
Not sure how much experience all of you have with our Pacific peoples, but they are generally huge and real problems when they get liquored up. I had to break up a riot between Samoan Marines and African-American Marines once and it was a bloody mess - literally.

Everybody was predictably penitent when the booze wore off.

16 posted on 09/06/2013 7:29:59 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: driftdiver
Victim? NY Cops dont play the victim which is probably why he got his butt whipped.

The psychology on this thread is fascinating.

He probably shoulda minded his manners.

Maybe it wasn't he who was ill-mannered.

This sounds a lot like the criticism of George Zimmermann.

"Why didn't he mind his own business?"

"It was just an ass-whuppin'! He should never have bothered Trayvon!"

Etc.

The next time there is a "White Girl Bleed a Lot" incident, will your gut reaction be: "They must have played the knockout game with that guy for a reason. He probably mouthed off to them or something."

17 posted on 09/06/2013 7:41:08 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

That you compare this cop to George Zimmerman is telling.

George was trying to protect his community.

This cop was trying to get laid. He messed with the wrong people and got taught a lesson. If he wasn’t a cop the NYPD wouldn’t have even cared let alone filed charges.


18 posted on 09/06/2013 7:53:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: katana
And for the trifecta; the soldiers were in town to play in a rugby tournament.
19 posted on 09/06/2013 7:57:27 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: driftdiver

You sound like a man too timid to approach a woman in a bar unless you can be sure that no other man is aware of her.

What a way to live, always to live in fear of others and full of fearful speculations.


20 posted on 09/06/2013 8:00:03 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Those British footballers are a riot.

It’s a wise move never to attend a British team vying against a foreign one. Usually they beat the crap out of the foreigners if they lose and do the same if they win.


21 posted on 09/06/2013 8:04:39 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: driftdiver
That you compare this cop to George Zimmerman is telling. George was trying to protect his community.

He was doing what he was entitled to do as a free citizen, and he got assaulted for his trouble because someone didn't like his attitude.

This cop was trying to get laid.

He also was doing what he was entitled to do as a free citizen, which is to strike up a conversation with a woman, and he got assaulted for his trouble because someone didn't like his attitude.

He messed with the wrong people and got taught a lesson.

Given what we know, he struck up a conversation with a woman at a bar. Unless she was the wife or girlfriend of someone else, he wasn't "messing" with anyone.

If he wasn’t a cop the NYPD wouldn’t have even cared let alone filed charges.

I realize you're speaking from ignorance, but if you assault someone in public in Murray Hill, break his nose, rip a chain from his neck and steal his smartphone - in front of a hundred witnesses - and the police catch you, you are going to jail.

It doesn't matter who the victim is.

This wasn't two guys in a shoving match. If you're in a bar brawl in NYC, you're going downtown. I've seen it happen with my own eyes on numerous occasions.

I'll also make this observation.

I played rugby for four years. When six (or four or eight) rugby teammates go out to a college bar and run into a group of college girls, it can be quite social.

When the same pack of guys goes to a regular bar in a big city and drunkenly decide to surround and hit on a single woman they do not know, her normal reaction will be to exit that conversation and start a new one with someone else as soon as she can.

22 posted on 09/06/2013 8:15:47 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Chainmail

I can believe that. I used to be a lifeguard at a public pool in a very mexican & kind of rough neighborhood. There was typically a small contingent of Samoans there, also, and the mexicans gave them a very wide berth.


23 posted on 09/06/2013 8:23:08 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: ansel12

You sound like a person who jumps to conclusions and makes an ass out of yourself.


24 posted on 09/06/2013 8:24:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver; ansel12
What if one jumped to the conclusion that a guy who was beaten and robbed by a pack of foreign thugs deserved it - because, the "reasoning" goes, he talked to another person without the thugs' express permission?
25 posted on 09/06/2013 8:27:17 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: driftdiver

Your post was pretty clear, live in fear, don’t cross the room to approach a woman unless you can be sure that no other man present wants to pursue her.


26 posted on 09/06/2013 8:41:23 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: ansel12

i bet you get beat up a lot.

no fear here. Of course I don’t pick girls up in bars in the first place. Are hookers expensive these days?


27 posted on 09/06/2013 8:55:00 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The assailants were Fijian? How unfortunate..


28 posted on 09/06/2013 9:02:03 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: driftdiver

I have never lost a fight, that is one reason that I am not afraid to approach a woman in a bar even if another man is eyeballing her, in fact, even a crowd of men, that is a common situation around attractive women in social situations.

You expressed fear in your earlier posts full of desperate caution to avoid crossing the room to talk to a woman in a bar if other men are noticing her.

It sounds like when you have slipped up and asserted yourself, other men slapped you down, if you ever even gone that far before catching yourself with internal cautions and fears.


29 posted on 09/06/2013 1:16:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: ansel12

women who go to bars to get hooked up for the night are in no way “attractive”


30 posted on 09/06/2013 1:20:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Aside from the pettiness of your off topic post, plenty of attractive women, married, single, engaged, military, girls off work, go to bars and nightclubs, and happy hours with food, to socialize and dance, on dates or anniversaries, honeymoons, baby showers, for countless reasons besides “to hook up”.


31 posted on 09/06/2013 1:46:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: ansel12

You intruded on a discussion which did not involve you. now go away and tell your mom to teach you some manners


32 posted on 09/06/2013 1:56:15 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

LOL, it is amusing and rare, to learn from someone how much their persona in a bar dealing with people in the flesh, differs from their swagger at the keyboard.

Too bad your keyboard swagger is outweighed by your previous personal revelations.


33 posted on 09/06/2013 2:09:29 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: ansel12

the secret is to stop digging when you find yourself in a hole

try it sometime


34 posted on 09/06/2013 2:12:00 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Well, stay safe, and don’t cross that room if other males are already eyeballing your interest.


35 posted on 09/06/2013 2:14:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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