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To: Liz
It's not the very first time.

(says a USAF veteran who endured a “lock down” when Jimmy Carter passed through a large DOD installation...SAC HQ)

I endured, and my next CIC was not insane.

I can't speak for all of my peers, but I can speak for a lot of them, past and present.
I absolutely knew there was an extremely high probability that I would die, in defending my country against an enemy attack, or while going on the offense against a designated enemy.
I accepted that probability.
Certain missions and locations were known to be almost suicidal, if the plan was ever activated or the base was attacked.
That was fair.
We knew what was at stake if we failed, and trusted we would not be wasted pawns, in a game we understood was not a game.

Under this administration?

I would have joined a military coup against an anti USA civilian leadership, knowing the probability was high that I would die or be imprisoned for the rest of my life. So we circle back to why my entire wing was on lock down, when Carter passed through... The oath to fight "against all enemies, foreign or domestic" is one that many swear, but few completely understand, untll they are faced with the unthinkable.

20 posted on 09/06/2013 6:15:18 PM PDT by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: sarasmom
I would have joined a military coup against an anti USA civilian leadership, knowing the probability was high that I would die or be imprisoned for the rest of my life. So we circle back to why my entire wing was on lock down, when Carter passed through... The oath to fight "against all enemies, foreign or domestic" is one that many swear, but few completely understand, untll they are faced with the unthinkable.

I was unfortunately around Carter and Clinton quite a bit and was never locked down nor entertaining thoughts of military coups.

But Carter never asked me to fight in support of Communists, and Clinton never asked me to fight in support of Saddam. As much as I disliked them, I knew a Republican would come along. Reagan came along, for instance.

Obama on the other hand is asking people to fight on the side of Al Qaeda. I wonder if we should be forming some kind of legal defense fund for those who are conscientious objectors when it comes to fighting for Al Qaeda. My son is in the Marines and daughter is in the Air Force, and I have no problem with them bowing out of this one. Both are going to be leaving anyways as soon as they can - they have seen the writing on the wall and the GOP insistence of running liberals on the ballot like Bush/McCain/Romney and know that it's a trend that will not stop.
29 posted on 09/06/2013 7:15:56 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: sarasmom

What a post.

Thanks!


51 posted on 09/07/2013 4:33:22 AM PDT by ripley
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