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Abbott to govern with 30-seat majority (official - conservative victory in Australian election)
news.com.au ^ | 7th September 2013 | Paul Osborne

Posted on 09/07/2013 5:24:25 AM PDT by naturalman1975

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To: naturalman1975
Interesting. Why I expected our media to tell us the truth about your gun possession laws, escapes me. We have a media that has descended to outright lying to further an agenda.

Thanks for the real deal.

51 posted on 09/07/2013 4:58:03 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: naturalman1975

Ahh, okay. I went back and read the original article and yes, I think you’re right, that’s what they meant.

Congrats on the “conservative” victory.


52 posted on 09/07/2013 5:06:50 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: naturalman1975

Congrats to you guys....signs of life in the West.


53 posted on 09/07/2013 5:15:16 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: thegrump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU


54 posted on 09/07/2013 6:31:44 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: naturalman1975

I presume the L1A1 is from your service years? As a child growing up in Northern Ireland I recall the distinctive “crack-thump!” that rifle made when being fired, you could always distinguish the light crackle of an Armalite or the wheezy rattle of a Thompson, for example, from the sound of the Brits shooting back. Fortunately for me the sounds were usually heard from a mile or so away.


55 posted on 09/07/2013 6:45:27 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: naturalman1975
I'd like to see the laws relaxed, but we're not America, and our attitudes are not the same on this.

The right to bear arms for individual or collective self-defense is a fundamental Natural Right.

What sort of restrictions are there regarding the weapons you own, which you have just shown us?

In other words, what is the procedure to purchase or possess such arms?

The Second Amendment to the US Constitution doesn't grant the People the right to bear arms, it simply recognizes that right. It's a very important distinction to realize that government doesn't grant Natural rights; it either recognizes them or not.

The government of a Free country should, by default, trust its People with arms. Any time that is made into a difficult process, it introduces a situation where the criminal element gains an unfair and unjust advantage over the intended victim, and that should never be the norm.

Registration, of course, is the first step to confiscation. If your government suddenly took a Tyrannical turn, it would be relatively easy for them to confiscate most weapons, especially with a relatively compliant citizenry...

56 posted on 09/07/2013 7:01:45 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: PotatoHeadMick
I presume the L1A1 is from your service years?

I purchased it after leaving the service, but the reason that is what I bought is because it is what I was most used to in the Navy. Familiarity is a good thing when it comes to weapons.

57 posted on 09/07/2013 7:10:24 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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What sort of restrictions are there regarding the weapons you own, which you have just shown us?

I have to have a Category C licence, which is more than the basic licence, which required me to attend a police station and talk to the licencing officer about why I wanted more than a basic licence. I also had to provide evidence that I had a safe storage location for it - a gun safe basically.

The police are allowed to check whether it's being stored safely - they never have, but they are allowed to. And if I was convicted of a serious indictable offence, or any firearms offence, whether considered serious or not, I would immediately lose my licence. They could also apply to have my licence temporarily suspended if I was even charged with an offence pending trial.

If your government suddenly took a Tyrannical turn, it would be relatively easy for them to confiscate most weapons, especially with a relatively compliant citizenry..

Yes, it would. As I've said, our laws aren't good laws. I don't like them. But they are just not as bad as they are sometimes painted.

I also, personally, don't have any real concerns about my government turning tyrannical in anything like the near future. I believe our system is stable enough to prevent that. But we have not had the same history of needing to revolt, or having civil wars that the US has had - if we had that history, my attitude towards that would be different - so I certainly believe Americans are perfectly rational to have those concerns as something they think about.

58 posted on 09/07/2013 7:16:47 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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When the subject of "The Aussie Gun Grab" comes up...I like to refer folks to this website:

Cleaver Firearms
59 posted on 09/07/2013 9:52:42 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: SoFloFreeper

SoFloFreeper said:

“Hey Australia conservatives: how about loosening those immigration laws and allowing some more conservatives in as new citizens? :)

We’ll build a new world down under.”


Australia’s Liberal Party victory is getting much attention from the New Media already – and I suspect this week for even more attention to be focused on “Down Under” by American conservatives (patriots) – and, yes, a wave of conservative middle and upper class Yanks could be headed to Australia, if things in this country keep going Communist.

As is well known, refugees are the inevitable by product of a Communist takeover, so English speaking Australia that reflects the same political attitude of millions of Americans could become a popular destination.

In fact, Australia could become the “Galt’s Gulch” of Atlas Shrugged.

http://conservapedia.com/Galt%27s_Gulch


60 posted on 09/08/2013 2:17:29 PM PDT by Jack_Reed
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To: Viennacon

Agreed. I’m very happy Rudd did not win.


61 posted on 09/08/2013 9:43:34 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: naturalman1975

Is that second gun Russian made?


62 posted on 09/09/2013 7:31:39 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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I don't know where the one in the picture was made (it's just a picture of the same model as the one I have, not of my gun itself), but mine is Australian made, manufactured by the Lithgow Small Arms Factory of NSW that has been making guns for the Australian Defence Force for over 100 years. Like most of the weapons made there, it's a foreign design made under licence - in this case, the original design comes from Belgium.

It's a L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle. It was the standard rifle of the Australian Defence Force during most of the 1970s and 1980s, which is where I learned to use one.

63 posted on 09/09/2013 1:55:58 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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