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Pennsylvania man pays school property tax all $7,143 of it in $1 bills
Fox News ^ | September 08, 2013 | Unknown

Posted on 09/08/2013 5:12:21 AM PDT by maddog55

An Easton, Pa. man, frustrated over property taxes, visited the local tax office and paid in dollar bills -- all $7,143 of it. One bill at a time. Local news reports identify the man as Robert Fernandes of Forks Township. The scene, posted on YouTube, has generated more than 15,600 views -- in less than a week. In the video, Fernandes carries a duffel bag filled with bundled bills, which he proceeds to stack on a counter. He brings doughnuts, offered to "anyone who is inconvenienced here today." The tax collector tells Fernandes his protest should probably be directed elsewhere, toward the school board, maybe, which is in charge of setting property tax rates. "I'm not doing this to make anybody's life more difficult," Fernandes tells the collector. "Unfortunately, I wish the same could be said, you know, for me and many others whose lives are more difficult for having to pay property taxes."

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Well done !!

Better video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPRGblJTPRE

1 posted on 09/08/2013 5:12:21 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: maddog55

I hate property taxes with a passion. I have no mortgage on my house but I still have to pay rent to the government in the form of property taxes. Why should I have to pay taxes on something just because I own it?


2 posted on 09/08/2013 5:25:34 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: maddog55

The tax collector can stick it for telling the citizen to take his protest elsewhere. The citizen is delivering legal tender.
The tax collector is lucky that it is not all in pennies.


3 posted on 09/08/2013 5:27:26 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: maddog55

On a very serious note here, I think that more and more people across the ‘Fruited Plain’ have decided that property taxes need to go into the trash can of history.

These ‘taxes’ are probably the most misused and confiscatory of all taxes. They go after those who have the fortune or possibly mis-fortune to own something that someone else has decided is worthy of being taxed. Land, houses even automobiles.

And the most arrogantly misused portion of these ‘property taxes’ is that if you don’t pay them these ‘bureaucratic crooks’ will steal or confiscate your property and sell it for pennies on the dollar just to get the ‘taxes’ they say you owe them. Once again just for having the privilege of owning something.

Land of the ‘Free’ home of the brace... I’m sorry to say it hasn’t been very free for a long time now.

It’s also time to stop this misuse of power by the Government too.


4 posted on 09/08/2013 5:27:51 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: SVTCobra03
I hate property taxes with a passion.

Of all the taxes I pay, property taxes bother me the least although we never sent a single one of our 11 kids to public school. Property tax dollars I can see in action. We have a top notch police force who keeps our town safe, well plowed, well paved streets, and a highly rated school district who keeps our property values high. During their school days my kids got their non religious text books, and the big kids got busses to their high schools.

Compare that to my state and federal income tax dollars. I get nothing from them.

5 posted on 09/08/2013 5:31:22 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: SVTCobra03
I have no mortgage on my house but I still have to pay rent to the government in the form of property taxes. Why should I have to pay taxes on something just because I own it?

My thoughts as well. Perhaps the answer is that we really don't absolutely own it! Our possession of it is ultimately at the whim of an insatiable government.

If anything, a property tax should be of a non-opressively nominal amount. Or, a pay-for-public-services-as-used system.

6 posted on 09/08/2013 5:36:05 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: maddog55

I would have paid in pennies.


7 posted on 09/08/2013 5:39:21 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: maddog55; All
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8 posted on 09/08/2013 5:43:02 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: The Working Man

A Hispanic friend’s mother lives in California in an 800 square foot house. He says she pays $10,000/ year in tax. That’s more than I ever paid on a mortgage in Florida. My taxes have gone up every year that I’ve owned a house. At my last house they went from $500/yr to $1650/yr in eight years. I wish I could get that kind of return on an investment.


9 posted on 09/08/2013 5:44:22 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: RedMDer
The tax collector is lucky that it is not all in pennies.

Indeed, but the pennies are probably not worth whatever copper is in them.

10 posted on 09/08/2013 5:44:31 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: maddog55
In NJ his tax bill would be double that. In his PA town the tax rate works out to about 3% of house value per year. He can get that down to 1.5% by moving into PA’s northeastern resort area. Many of the houses are vacation homes with no children in the public schools so the school tax load is more spread out. However his commute will be longer. Using the IRS mileage rate he won't save any money and will spend more time in traffic. The bureaucrats gotcha and they know it.
11 posted on 09/08/2013 5:45:08 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: SVTCobra03
I hate property taxes with a passion. I have no mortgage on my house but I still have to pay rent to the government in the form of property taxes. Why should I have to pay taxes on something just because I own it?

To add to that injury, they decide what your house is worth, even if you have no intention of selling it, and tax you on what some fool might pay for it if it was on the market.

The most your home should be taxed on is what you paid for it.

12 posted on 09/08/2013 5:46:53 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: maddog55

No one “owns” property. You can only keep it if all the government entities and your Home Owners Association are paid off every year...a sobering fact when you are paying off your mortgage.


13 posted on 09/08/2013 5:47:08 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SVTCobra03

The story I got in grade school was that the big difference between the systems governing the US and USSR was the private ownership of land. With property taxes approaching 10% in some areas of the US, the truth is, that there is virtually no difference. If you want to find out who REALLY owns your property, just don’t pay taxes on it for a bit.


14 posted on 09/08/2013 5:47:11 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: maddog55
Np - towards the insane Teachers Unions...

The tax collector tells Fernandes his protest should probably be directed elsewhere, toward the school board, maybe, which is in charge of setting property tax rates.

15 posted on 09/08/2013 5:49:38 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: maddog55

Everyone should do what this man did.

In the time it took the clerk the do all the b**ching about the job she should have done, she could have been well into counting the bills.


16 posted on 09/08/2013 5:53:12 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: maddog55

Many people are sick and tired of being raped by property taxes; much of it to finance OTHER people’s children so-called ‘education’. You want to send your children to public school, then you pay for it. I’m tired of being extorted by school unions.


17 posted on 09/08/2013 5:53:25 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: maddog55

The tax collector should quit whining...I wouldn’t provided donuts, and I wouldn’t have been in an apologetic mood.


18 posted on 09/08/2013 5:57:29 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
The most your home should be taxed on is what you paid for it.

I paid 390, currently worth about 220.

19 posted on 09/08/2013 6:00:29 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: OrangeHoof

Very little copper in pennies thes days. Mostly zinc with a thin copper cladding.


20 posted on 09/08/2013 6:00:43 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: fwdude

21 posted on 09/08/2013 6:03:19 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: SVTCobra03
I hate property taxes with a passion. I have no mortgage on my house but I still have to pay rent to the government in the form of property taxes. Why should I have to pay taxes on something just because I own it?

Bwahh Ha Ha Ha, you own it! That's a good one!

22 posted on 09/08/2013 6:07:46 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: SVTCobra03
I hate property taxes with a passion.
Can't say I disagree, but it's the tax rate I hate, not the actual tax.
For my tax dollars I get street lights, sidewalks, a sewer system, a police force, plowed streets in winter, schools, clean water, a library, etc.
It's the outrageous public employees' salaries and benefits that are killing us.
23 posted on 09/08/2013 6:08:05 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: old and tired

I’d be “old and tired” if I had raised 11 kids!


24 posted on 09/08/2013 6:11:09 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: maddog55

My county has a loophole. If you live in a trailer on your own land then they tax you at the “unimproved land” rate which is virtually nothing. If you take the wheels off it becomes a permeant structure then the real properties taxes start. I own about 12 acres with a really nice house that I built in 2000. I am going to section off 5 acres and buy the nicest airstream whatever and live in it and sell my primary residence. Never take the wheels off!


25 posted on 09/08/2013 6:14:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: oh8eleven

For your tax dollars you get schools that are churning out marxist children by the millions...swell.


26 posted on 09/08/2013 6:14:56 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: palmer
Note, I said "the most". When I bought my home, before the current price insanity, I paid mid 5-figures for it. The last (annual, now) reassessment raised the value of the property by $500 less than the original purchase price, in one year, with no improvements to the property.

I recently received a notice that the mill levy will be increased by 15% (which, I am assured, "does not necessarily mean an increase in taxes").

If the property was taxed on its purchase price, those of us who have been paying in for a while (decades) keep paying at the same rate, roughly.

The area is growing, fast, and there is a lot of new construction. Property values have skyrocketed, whether or not you want to sell.

The new folks who get the new sewer and water lines, sidewalks, and streets, would pay more, because they paid more for their houses, commensurate with the increase in construction costs for the new infrastructure. Otherwise, those of us in the older part of town are buying infrastructure for people who just moved into houses allegedly worth multiples of what ours are worth, bolstering the value of their property while our streets wait for repairs.

27 posted on 09/08/2013 6:16:39 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: maddog55

Cute but I would make him count it 6 or 7 times before he got a receipt. And if the office closed during the count, he’d have to start over the next day.


28 posted on 09/08/2013 6:22:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“The most your home should be taxed is what you paid for it”.
I live in Belvidere N.J. right across from Forks Pa. In Jersey if they kept the tax at what you paid for the house they would just raise the tax rate & you would pay what you are now paying. We are screwed either way.


29 posted on 09/08/2013 6:24:30 AM PDT by certrtwngnut (')
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To: RedMDer

“The tax collector is lucky that it is not all in pennies.”

A roll of pennies weighs 4 oz. so, $1 is half a pound.
He would need a good truck to do it. It would be a hoot though!


30 posted on 09/08/2013 6:28:09 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: who knows what evil?

LOL ... maybe where you live ... and WTF are YOU doing about it?


31 posted on 09/08/2013 6:29:58 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: maddog55
i pay Village tax, School tax, Town&County tax, State AND County sales tax, State income tax and Federal income tax...

but the welfare RATS say i'm not paying my Fair share

32 posted on 09/08/2013 6:30:47 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: certrtwngnut
Believe me, I know. Not only was my assessed value increased by nearly the purchase price (in one year without any improvements), but the mill levy is going up by 15% as well.

Why the voters of ND voted down Measure 2 (to eliminate the Property tax) is beyond me, except that there was big (out-of-state) money and a slick (if inaccurate) ad campaign blasting the measure.

33 posted on 09/08/2013 6:34:12 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: palmer

Are you now paying property taxes based on the 220? Probably not.


34 posted on 09/08/2013 6:45:12 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet
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To: SVTCobra03

The key part of this story is that THE SCHOOL BOARD is in charge of setting the property taxes. Thewy have the largest chronic appetite of all.

The same issue is coming to a head in Washoe County in Nevada.

The single person head of the school board would have the authority to set/raise & determine the property tax rates in all of Washoe county. Many homeowners are up in arms over such complete authority.


35 posted on 09/08/2013 6:56:02 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: txrefugee
No one “owns” property. You can only keep it if all the government entities and your Home Owners Association are paid off every year...a sobering fact when you are paying off your mortgage.

And if you're paying off your mortgage you don't own it anyway
36 posted on 09/08/2013 6:57:45 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: oh8eleven

I’m outvoted by socialist parents who are comfortable stealing money from other people...you have children in public schools? Then you pay for them...leave the rest of us alone. (Never happen, of course.)


37 posted on 09/08/2013 6:58:36 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: maddog55

We have to pay for the free school breakfast for everybody, haven’t you heard?


38 posted on 09/08/2013 7:02:35 AM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: outofsalt

40+ years ago I was a Ice Cream Man for Good Humor. We didn’t even count pennies then. We weighed them and put them in $20 sacks at the end of the shift. LOL!


39 posted on 09/08/2013 9:34:05 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: maddog55

bump


40 posted on 09/08/2013 10:12:18 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lakecumberlandvet
Are you now paying property taxes based on the 220? Probably not.

Actually they reappraised about two years ago so I am paying based on 250, so not too far off.

I am in a rural area 75 miles W of DC and when the housing stopped skyrocketing there (it is still high but not rising), the second / retirement home market out here crashed and took everything else down with it. Hopefully we have seem the bottom of that.

41 posted on 09/08/2013 12:32:50 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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