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Texas Official: State Actively Preparing to Become an Independent Nation
Freedom Outpost ^ | September 9, 2013 | Tim Brown

Posted on 09/10/2013 11:07:21 AM PDT by BulletBobCo

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To: ansel12

It doesn’t matter what the voters want anymore. The political class isn’t afraid of them. The voters didn’t want TARP. Calls flooded in to them 99 to 1 against it. They still passed it. Days before an election, and almost all of them kept their seats. The voters didn’t want the auto maker bailouts but it happened anyway. The voters didn’t want obamacare and it happened anyway. The voters didn’t want us involved in Libya but it happened anyway. The voters don’t want us involved in Syria and the only thing the politicians are talking about is how big should the bombing be. Seeing a pattern here yet? Those clowns in DC do as they are told by the people who are really in charge, knowing that if a vote they cast gets them out of office, there’s a well paying lobbying gig waiting for them so long as they do as they’re told.


121 posted on 09/12/2013 4:19:18 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

Well no matter the topic, you are always out there, and obsessed, so TARP or ordering red states destroyed, it’s all the same.


122 posted on 09/12/2013 7:43:51 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Libertarians, the left's social agenda with conservatism's economics, which is impossible of course)
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To: ansel12

Yeah. Whatever. When the SHTF you’ll be there with the clueless masses saying “wow, no one could have seen this coming”. I’ll be there posting the threads under the “I told you so” topic.


123 posted on 09/12/2013 7:58:08 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: factoryrat

I like Texas’ chances. Any attempt to quell a secession at with force at this point would probably unite many progressives with conservatives.

The thing about progressivism in the populace is that there is some kind of unifying principle behind it in most cases. It can be that the ‘Man’ can’t be trusted, or that God shouldn’t be in my business, or ‘I should be free to do what I choose’, or ‘I believe in the ability of Government to do good’.

Among the political class, the calculus is more crass - as long as our interests are aligned, I’ll help you achieve what you want - by any means in most cases - if you do the same for me.

Obama blew that calculus apart, of late, for the political class. I’ve had very vocal liberals approach me of late shaking their heads about the NSA and Syria. They are also getting nervous about Obamacare too. Privacy is a very big deal with many liberals because, at base, the stuff they may decide to indulge in isn’t something they want revealed.

At this point, everything they excoriated conservatives about for decades - police state surveillance, patriot act abuses, war for oil, trying to dictate proper living to ordinary people, pro-big business/anti-labor policies - have been multiplied and intensified by Obama.

Many of progressives believe religion is the reason why wars start, not money. Folks are starting to wake up to WHICH religion is the root of it - Islam.

Progressives have no place to go, and many aren’t willing to reevaluate why they feel the way they do about conservatism. Under ANY circumstances country-club conservatism won’t do, and neither will Moral Majority conservatism.

Small government conservatism, however, has a chance.

90,000,000 out of the work force. You start talking about whacking back unemployment BEFORE you demonstrate to people there’s a legitimate economic way out of this mess and you lose.

No way federal soldiers will obey orders to invade Texas, or any other state. Period. The idea of a lot of the NWO crowd was the only way to break sovereignty of someone like the US was to use UN troops to occupy us.

Good luck with that.

Secession into regional blocks is probably coming.

Texas would be in pretty good shape EXCEPT they have no water. None.

You’ll know Texas is getting serious about secession when large scale, sustainable desalination starts getting serious discussion.

To beat Texas, you dam the rivers. They have serious groundwater availability problems already (wells need to be as deep as 400 to 500 feet, where 20 years ago they were only as deep as 100 feet).

If they start to address this water issue as a primary ‘economic’ objective, then I believe they are serious about secession in the near to immediate term.


124 posted on 09/12/2013 8:29:20 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Yehuda

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/faith-and-morals/item/16488-san-antonio-s-non-bias-ordinance-is-pro-gay-anti-christian-charge-opponents

a link to a decent article about San Antonia.

I definitely heard it reported on the radio a prominent Democrat politician - just can’t recall who, adding his two cents to this controversy stated people in noncompliance of the ordinance didn’t deserve to be citizens any longer or be a part of civic society. Just pushing the bounds and letting the cat out of the bag as to how these sick folks really believe. There are many people in this country who would not have a problem in fact desire in their perverted hearts to euphemistically get rid of the haters and deniers in some future gulag. Real conservatives and Christians who won’t bow the knee are like in stick in the spokes of the wheel of these globalist utopian evil tyrants and the anger emanating from them cannot be quenched. If you’ve read Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago one can get a sense of the atrocities and how a society can become so crazy sick and deluded and that unfortunately includes the USA at this point. We are coming to a point that begins with the first chapter - Arrest. That alone is a great read as to the mindset of the average person who believes things just aren’t possible and they did nothing wrong and why they won’t cry out or fight; if only they knew the cost of doing and saying nothing and what was in store for them.

In Russia I believe that book is required reading for students for some time now - amazing.


126 posted on 09/13/2013 11:18:47 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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