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UK Newspaper - Is Obama the American Gorbachev, and Putin the Russian Reagan?

Posted on 09/13/2013 7:55:57 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

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To: ComtedeMaistre
1. On political prisoners - Didn’t Obama lock up the Egyptian Christian who made a movie on Muhammad?

2. On corruption in Government - Would the Russian government be more honest if it was run like the Obama federal government?

3. On Fraudulent elections - I am willing to bet that more dead voters and illegal aliens voted for Obama, especially in Chicago, than voted for Putin.

Calling out Putin for being a murderous, thug, dictator should not be seen as a signal of any support of any kind for Obama.

That Obama is an idiot has zero to do with Putin also being one.

21 posted on 09/13/2013 8:17:55 AM PDT by gdani
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Putin ideology is very close to Reagan. Look at the taxes in Russia


22 posted on 09/13/2013 8:19:14 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: gdani

Are you talking about Putin or Obama. Hard to tell.


23 posted on 09/13/2013 8:23:23 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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But Putin is a “patriot,” silly!


24 posted on 09/13/2013 8:30:02 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Obama is the Kenyan ass clown.


25 posted on 09/13/2013 8:32:30 AM PDT by rootntootn (Boycott Hawaii, the scene of the crime.)
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The vacuum of leadership created by Obama has merely given Putin one more opportunity. Anyone looks like a great leader compared to Obama.


26 posted on 09/13/2013 8:36:49 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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You don't want to pop FR's love affair balloon with the communist dictator.

Don't you remember the speech Putin gave the month after our community idiot was elected?

The speech was published in Pravda.

Putin warned America "not to go down the road to communism, as that was what destroyed Russia".

Who knows if he was a closet capitalist or a communist when he was the head of the KGB.

What matters is that he is now a God fearing capitalist now.

27 posted on 09/13/2013 8:45:18 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Is Obama the American Gorbachev?

Secular Humanists believe that a one world government based on secular humanists principles will be a consequence of the process of evolution. To achieve this goal faster requires a weakening of America that is willing to give up its sovereignty and power to the United Nations or something similar to it.Obama is perfectly happy to destroy America to speed this up.

28 posted on 09/13/2013 9:17:56 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Putin was never head of the KGB. He was a colonel in the KGB.

I wish there were an online version of a biography of Putin I read in The Atlantic while waiting to see my physician a few years back. It was very interesting.

Evidently, in the last days of the Soviet Union, the KGB was a sort of miniature free society within the crumbling edifice of Communist totalitarianism. KGB men amongst themselves had a fair degree of freedom of speech, and there was criticism of the Party, criticism of the foundation of the Soviet Union. One of the most lively debates was about whether or not state atheism had not been a hideous mistake. The article didn’t say which side Putin was on.

But it did date his apparently fervent embrace of Holy Orthodoxy — not to his entry into politics, but to almost losing his family in a fire at the dacha. Obviously he is not a good Christian in the sense of getting anywhere close to living out all of Christ’s commandments (but who of us, a few exemplary monks and nuns aside, is in these latter days?) but he is plainly pious in a way that a lot of the old apparatchiks who turned up in cathedrals awkwardly crossing themselves when the old ladies did soon after the Soviet Union dissolved are not.

And his policies have certainly been more pro-Christian and pro-market not only than those of the old Soviet government, but of our current administration and most Western European “social democracies”.


29 posted on 09/13/2013 9:33:40 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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What matters is that he is now a God fearing capitalist now.

Well, except for that whole state-controlled media & nationalizing of the oil industry thing.

30 posted on 09/13/2013 12:57:47 PM PDT by gdani
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Anyone looks like a great leader compared to Obama.

That's an extremely low bar you've set there.

But it doesn't make Putin any more desirable.

31 posted on 09/13/2013 1:01:15 PM PDT by gdani
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Putin is being propped up by our own media because they have lost their faith in Obama and the rest of our leftist leadership. Our left leaning media wants a leftist leader who represents strength and vitality and we simply haven't got anyone like that in this country right now.

Our leftist leadership is both intellectually and morally bankrupt. They have pushed their agenda to the high water mark and people can now see that it is not what they want. Even the unions are starting to rebel over Obamacare. All I am saying is that we are very close to a change in direction for the country. Now is the time for a strong leader on the right to come forward. I am not sure who that is, but I feel an historic opportunity is just around the corner.

32 posted on 09/13/2013 3:02:28 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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