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Global warming is just HALF what we said: World's top climate scientists admit...
UK Daily Mail ^

Posted on 09/15/2013 11:38:14 AM PDT by matt04

A leaked copy of the world’s most authoritative climate study reveals scientific forecasts of imminent doom were drastically wrong.

The Mail on Sunday has obtained the final draft of a report to be published later this month by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the ultimate watchdog whose massive, six-yearly ‘assessments’ are accepted by environmentalists, politicians and experts as the gospel of climate science.

They are cited worldwide to justify swingeing fossil fuel taxes and subsidies for ‘renewable’ energy.

Yet the leaked report makes the extraordinary concession that the world has been warming at only just over half the rate claimed by the IPCC in its last assessment, published in 2007.

Back then, it said that the planet was warming at a rate of 0.2C every decade – a figure it claimed was in line with the forecasts made by computer climate models.

But the new report says the true figure since 1951 has been only 0.12C per decade – a rate far below even the lowest computer prediction.

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They recognise the global warming ‘pause’ first reported by The Mail on Sunday last year is real – and concede that their computer models did not predict it. But they cannot explain why world average temperatures have not shown any statistically significant increase since 1997.

They admit large parts of the world were as warm as they are now for decades at a time between 950 and 1250 AD – centuries before the Industrial Revolution, and when the population and CO2 levels were both much lower.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: matt04

[A forecast in the 2007 report that hurricanes would become more intense has simply been dropped. . .]

Al Gore used Hurricane Katrina and the IPCC report to become a consultant to the home insurance industry. Insurers used Gore’s junk science—in part—to help justify rate hikes.


21 posted on 09/15/2013 1:51:48 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: matt04
Huge cadres of academia have been corrupted by chasing grants under the influence of such Gore-led AGW nonsense, much of it via taxpayer dollars, but also through corporate allocations of time, energy and dollars.

This is a major reason for the heavy Leftist tilting in academia, and I imagine it may take decades to get most of "these ships" once again going in directions useful to the country and society.

That a person like Jim Hansen could have such a corrupted sway at NASA's GISS, where he for many years was able to peddle his extremist, fake-science AGW nonsense should have scared every rational US taxpayer out the wazoo. There have been little-to-no checks and balances. We were only lucky enough to get secret emails exposing the baddies as peer review was useless, being corrupted from start to finish (see linked article above).

With as large a financial and societal crash as we are likely to experience in the not-distant future, hopefully the uselessness of much of academia will become rightly exposed and its lifeblood of funding will dry up, forcing many in its hallowed halls to find more honest work, even if only selling apples on the street corner.

HF

22 posted on 09/15/2013 2:00:06 PM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: matt04

This is awesome! All my kooky liberal relatives have relied on this science to beat me over the head with the global warming crap for years. I am going to print this out and carry it around with me :-)


23 posted on 09/15/2013 2:35:32 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: matt04
Full title: Global warming is just HALF what we said: World's top climate scientists admit computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong

The "computers" got nothing wrong, the scientists put garbage data in and got garbage data out.

24 posted on 09/15/2013 3:04:33 PM PDT by RJL (There's no greed like the greed of a liberal politician buying votes with your money.)
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To: matt04
Global warming is just HALF what we said: World's top climate scientists admit computers got the effects of greenhouse gases wrong

Know this: If they were able to get all of their strangling taxes and regulations in place, they'd be crowing success and victory over global warming and demanding even more taxes and regulations to finish the job.

25 posted on 09/15/2013 3:08:03 PM PDT by RJL (There's no greed like the greed of a liberal politician buying votes with your money.)
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To: RJL

It allot easier for them to blame a machine, that they programmed.


26 posted on 09/15/2013 4:13:05 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04
Here's the bottom line: every time scientists build a model projecting climate change (or tomorrow's temperature), they use a probability distribution to assign confidence intervals, saying that "with 95% certainty, we can say that the expected temperature will be between X and Y."

To inflate the scare over global warming, the media and the more media-savvy (and dishonest) scientists have only been reporting the Y end of the scale.

The bottom line is that there probably is some amount of anthropogenically caused climate change, but it's nowhere near as dire or catastrophic as you'd think from people who only report worst-case (and improbable) scenarios. Certainly not enough to turn our economy upside-down over.

27 posted on 09/15/2013 6:32:30 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: RJL

And created garbage models that run on the computers. Anyone claiming they have included (let alone even know) all the variables involved in the global climate in any model is FOS.


28 posted on 09/15/2013 6:49:54 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: matt04
A leaked copy of the world’s most authoritative(1) study reveals scientific(2) forecasts of imminent doom were drastically wrong.
The Mail on Sunday has obtained the final draft of a report to be published later this month by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the ultimate watchdog(3) whose massive, six-yearly ‘assessments’ are accepted by environmentalists, politicians and experts(4) as the gospel of climate science.

Hard to read any article that commits that many errors in the first two small paragraphs, by deliberate distortion or omission. None of this is new. I did not read the rest of the article; I prefer to eat my meals once, not dozens of times as the scammers are inclined to expect.

(1) This periodic study is anything but scientific. Everyone with knowledge of rudimentary science knows that.Computer models are not science. Further by now everyone knows that the IPCC consists of two groups. The science group and the political group. The political group writes the final report. Dozens of world class true scientists have disgustedly quit the group, unfortunately quietly. The political IPCC chooses what to include and what to omit from the science.

(2) No computer climate model has yet existed that could predict the climate for any ten year period between 1900 and 2010, knowing and inputting the known climate of the previous ten years. In any other discipline, that would clearly be labeled a solid FAIL.
"Authoritative" is in the same category as Clinton's view of the word "is." It certainly is such to the scamsters who promote, massage and promote the unproven science in the final reports. No one else. True scientists, certainly don't.

(3) The "Ultimate Watchdog" is a self-assigned label by the very conspirators who have been proven frauds, unethical and not above "losing (or destroying)" data that was sent to them from worldwide monitoring sources, when the data didn't fit their preconceived conclusion.
I trust that "Ultimate Watchdog" group about as much as I trust Obama's IRS, State Department and NSA.

(4) The word "Experts" has totally lost any rational meaning, when hair dressers, actors, tattoo artists and gay activists are listed among signatories of global warming issues, as "experts."

For some sort of perspective, read and judge the puerile discussion at the following link.

The Great Delusion

Greenie Watch

29 posted on 09/15/2013 7:35:37 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: matt04
My comments at the original article:

Not without good reason, our friends on the left are keen to repeat President Eisenhower’s warning not to let the “Military Industrial Complex” tail wag or defense policy dog. Oddly, they “forget” his warning of a “Scientific Industrial Complex”…“The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.”

30 posted on 09/15/2013 7:55:51 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Original Link

"A Dec. 12, 2007 BBC article quoted Professor Maslowski and his team of climate researchers at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif. explaining how they used “a high-resolution regional [computer] model for the Arctic Ocean and sea ice forced with realistic atmospheric data" to make their predictions."

It appears that Maslowski wasn't at all affected by the fact that his “a high-resolution regional [computer] model for the Arctic Ocean and sea ice forced with realistic atmospheric data" Was wildly and totally wrong.

Inadvertent tangible proof that the world's most powerful computer can't overcome dogmatic arrogant delusional stupidity.

31 posted on 09/15/2013 8:46:08 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: matt04

Thanks


32 posted on 09/16/2013 8:19:57 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: C210N
GlowBull Warming...

GlowBull Globaloney Warming.

33 posted on 09/16/2013 9:45:05 AM PDT by QT3.14 (USA born 7.4.1776 fathered by geniuses - died 11.4.2008 (Suicide) by idiots and traitors)
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To: RipSawyer
I hear you, but I'm sure our current crop of Lysenkian "scientists" are happy to measure Global temperature to any degree of spurious precision demanded by their funders.

Their level of accuracy is another matter.

34 posted on 09/16/2013 9:54:30 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Democrat_media

Global warming is a Globalist hoax. The Globalists put a lot of money and effort into the New World Order idea. They aren’t going to quit just because this idea was proven wrong.


35 posted on 09/16/2013 6:45:08 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: Democrat_media

My impression is that the average new college graduate knows far more about “climate change” than the US Constitution. It’s pretty much baked in to the pie now.


36 posted on 09/16/2013 6:48:28 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: RipSawyer

You should, on that last. I know a fair amount about thermometry and Thermodynamics, and the fundamental reality is that we have only had satellite temperature measurement to the point where we have anything like a decent world average temperature for a few handfuls of years. I still don’t trust the adjusted earth stations, and going back further, the tree ring nonsense is complete flights of fancy, when it comes to helping get global average temps to a tenth of a degree F.


37 posted on 09/16/2013 7:00:45 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: matt04

GIGO——garbage in, garbage out (garbage into the computer)


38 posted on 09/16/2013 7:17:08 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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