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Gun Control’s Dead End
National Review Online ^ | September 17, 2013 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 09/17/2013 11:02:05 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 09/17/2013 11:02:05 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
"The Left, if it’s honest..."
...would cease to exist.

2 posted on 09/17/2013 11:03:58 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The forces of decadence are the forces of evil.)
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To: neverdem
The Left, if it’s honest...

Not a possibility in the real world.

3 posted on 09/17/2013 11:05:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: neverdem

The Left, if it’s honest?

That’s a mighty big IF!


4 posted on 09/17/2013 11:05:46 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Savage Beast
The Left, if it’s honest . . .

Is sort of like saying that if my uncle had been plumbed a little differently, he might have been my Auntie.

5 posted on 09/17/2013 11:06:46 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Savage Beast
"The left, if it's honest..."

is like "The right, if it had balls..."

If only...

6 posted on 09/17/2013 11:11:41 AM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: neverdem
It would, of course, be impractical and unbecoming for a free nation to respond to this worrying reality by preemptively punishing the whole population.

Impractical, unseemly, and even unconstitutional? That's Marxism in the famous "nut shell," isn't it?

7 posted on 09/17/2013 11:12:42 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: neverdem

“Gun control”. The Left is not interested in gun “control”. What they really want is a gun BAN. They just know it’s not PC for them to say that out loud, yet.....


8 posted on 09/17/2013 11:13:03 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: neverdem
Personally, I am of the view that there is very little that we can achieve with laws.

Things we can achieve with laws:

  1. Dispense with "gun free zones," ESPECIALLY military bases.
  2. Stiffen penalties for mischievous discharge of a firearm.
  3. Do away with affirmative action hiring for defense contractors, as my bet is this guy would never have been hired otherwise because of his arrest background.

That's a start. I don't suppose I have to go on about how government policies abet broken families that raise young monsters like this petulant thug.

In short, typically and once again, the left jumps in to supposedly "fix" a problem that was at least abetted by their own policies. The "fixes" they demand will do nothing to prevent a future recurrence, indeed the contrary. And said "fix" will only advance their interest in running a ruthless and murderous police state.

FUDF

9 posted on 09/17/2013 11:14:19 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: neverdem

Learn how to effectively MANAGE THE MENTALLY ILL!!!!!

This is the perfect job for a bunch of SOCIALIST CONTROL FREAKS!

Apply your vast resevoirs of self-promoted compassion, and develop mental health facilities that treat the patients like people and not animals.


10 posted on 09/17/2013 11:16:08 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: NFHale

Hey... when you get a spare couple-o-minutes, you should read this. It’s actually pretty good. :-)


11 posted on 09/17/2013 11:19:33 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: neverdem

The left, if it’s honest.......

And hell’s not going to freeze over either...


12 posted on 09/17/2013 11:21:18 AM PDT by Ms. Blunt
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To: neverdem

Regardless of whether through the efforts of a “ruler” or a “ruling class”, when the rights of the citizenry are abused or denied by either, a change in leadership is mandated. We are on the road to ruin and sage advice is a rarity as well as the driver heeding a suggested direction change. There are few guardrails remaining and I fear we will all be careening over the edge. It may be time for a “Chinese fire drill”.


13 posted on 09/17/2013 11:29:38 AM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: hiredhand

It’s an outstanding article.

Already sent it out to my Gunny list... danke!!!


14 posted on 09/17/2013 11:32:26 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: neverdem
If there are good answers to these questions, conservatives should team up with progressives to change and to improve the system.

Enforce the laws that are already on the books!

15 posted on 09/17/2013 11:35:34 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: neverdem
When I have asked this question of non-journalists on Twitter, I have received a common — refreshingly honest — answer: “A gun ban.”

Most conservatives do not appreciate the childlike faith liberals have in government's ability to simply dictate behavior, nor their panic when told "it won't work." "But it's all we can do," runs the reply. It isn't, of course, nor is it obvious that doing anything at all will not make the problem worse.

I absolutely understand the desire to "do something", but it does not follow that throwing gasoline on a fire in an attempt to put it out will improve the situation, good intentions despite, and the sulky rejoinder, "well, at least I did something" sounds as childish as it really is.

But an open call for an outright gun ban would be an improvement in one area - it would at least be honest. Most of the chronic mendacity associated with gun control movement is simply its members' fear of stating publicly what their intention really is. And so they lie: "we're only after ammunition that's environmentally safe, not a gun ban," or "we only want to take those dangerous 30-round high-capacity ammo clips out of circulation - oh, did I say 30? I meant 20. Oh, did I say 20? I meant 10. Oh, did I say 10? I meant 7." And so it goes. It has been that way so long that it is no longer an effort to tell that they're lying through their teeth, every time.

That absolutely poisons reasonable debate on the topic. When a concerned conservative states that he or she thinks that some sort of flag should be set on the mentally incompetent, the response is always, 100% of the time, "oh, good, now how do we leverage this to include everybody?" And so we don't, and if you can't talk about a problem, solving it gets much more difficult.

16 posted on 09/17/2013 11:40:09 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: G Larry
Learn how to effectively MANAGE THE MENTALLY ILL!!!!!

Unfortunately, depends on who gets to define the term "mentally ill". The next thing the gun-grabbers will try to do is get the psychiatrists to broaden the term to mean anyone who wants to own a gun.

17 posted on 09/17/2013 11:40:54 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: COBOL2Java

Why would you let anybody know you have a gun?

As long as we retain our 2A Rights, we can fight such outrages from among the shrinks.


18 posted on 09/17/2013 11:59:16 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: neverdem
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19 posted on 09/17/2013 12:00:51 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is not bliss. It is the road to serfdom.)
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To: neverdem

We’d all better get busy on ANOTHER front as well!

This is ESPECIALLY for those of you who think I’ve been unduly tough on government schools!

Folks, with some exceptions, they have increasingly morphed into GOVERNMENT INDOCTRINATION CENTERS, designed to train generations of misinformed, low and no information dummies.

If this subversion of the Founders’ vision for this country is not halted — and soon — what sense will it make to save America, the place on the globe, if America, THE IDEA, is eventually murdered as a result of OUR failure to defend that idea.

Over the years, I’ve had my OWN run-ins with the bureaucrats and fellow “citizens” on the dark side who believe that freedom is too dangerous to be allowed to any but them and their elitist associates.

“When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side,’ I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community’.”
Adolph Hitler Speech November 1933.

High School AP History Book Rewrites 2nd Amendment
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/high-school-ap-history-book-rewrites-2nd-amendment_092013/print/


20 posted on 09/17/2013 12:09:25 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is not bliss. It is the road to serfdom.)
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