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Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz urges customers to not bring guns to cafes
CBS Money Watch ^ | 09/18/2013 | CBS

Posted on 09/18/2013 6:18:11 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie

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To: GeronL

I agree that private corporations can make whatever rules they wish.

But Starbucks is deferring to one authority over another. I’m seriously asking what constitutes “authorized” law enforcement, by what authority, and whether that authority has any superiority in law to the Constitution itself.

I’m making the point that Starbucks is deferring to a lesser right of law enforcement than the greater right of the citizen.


81 posted on 09/18/2013 8:36:53 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Which I agree they are allowed to do, silly as it may be.


82 posted on 09/18/2013 8:37:38 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I buy their beans at the local grocery because we have NO Duncan Donuts in the Twin Cities.


83 posted on 09/18/2013 8:40:49 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!!!)
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To: VRWCmember; All
Most states allow licensed people to carry concealed, and a FEW states allow open carrying of firearms. But most states absolutely do NOT allow people to openly carry.

Sorry, dude, but wrong. Most states do permit open carry.

ALL 50 states have some concealed carry permit law on the books, either Constitutional carry, shall issue, or may issue.

These 12 states permit open carry without requiring the citizen to apply for any permit or license:

Alaska, Arkansas, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, South Dakota, Vermont, Kentucky, Virginia.

These 15 states permit open carry with restrictions: Utah, North Dakota, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Iowa, Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia, Indiana, Maryland, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Massachusetts.

27 states out of 50 is a majority. Hence, "most states permit open carry."

84 posted on 09/18/2013 8:47:20 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Uncle Miltie

When a merchant goes OUT OF HIS WAY to insult someone like me, I try my best to avoid enriching that merchant. I’d been buying Starbucks ground coffee but will now find a substitute.


85 posted on 09/18/2013 8:47:38 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: AKinAK

Carry concealed if you have a permit, if not, get one
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A Question... In an “Open Carry” situation/state, is
“Concealed Carry” a legal option to be exercised or is CC not allowed in an OC legal division?

I take it that in a CC legally defined jurisdiction, OC is not an option that can be done. So, my question is in a OC jurisdiction, can one legally “Conceal Carry” as an alternative to OC?

Could Starbucks not say to the OC customers, “We welcome you to our store, but please CC so that the wimps won’t pee on themselves and our floor when they see an OC.”

I can appreciate that the law is probably different in all 57 states.


86 posted on 09/18/2013 8:58:25 AM PDT by LaMudBug
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To: Uncle Miltie
"We will not ask you to leave," he said.

Does anybody here believe that? I'm not going somewhere that I know for sure is a "gun-free zone." Starbucks (who has crappy coffee anyway) just tagged themselves as such.

87 posted on 09/18/2013 9:01:34 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: barefoot_hiker

You hit the nail on the head. Unfortunately, honest gun owners can’t really do much about this (other than to stop patronizing stores that go along with the liberal complainers).


88 posted on 09/18/2013 9:05:30 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: AKinAK

I thought AK had Constitutional Carry? No permit required, like AZ and VT.


89 posted on 09/18/2013 9:15:56 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: tgusa
I think the next time I see a plainclothes cop in my usual Starbucks (just a few blocks from the police station) I will politely tell the manager that ‘that person with a gun is making me nervous’.

And (gasp) you are OFFENDED!

90 posted on 09/18/2013 9:23:49 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Reese Hamm

So the guns aren’t the problem. The customers are the problem.


91 posted on 09/18/2013 9:25:56 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Not safe to frequent Star Bucks..Duncan Donuts is my choice from now on.


92 posted on 09/18/2013 9:42:56 AM PDT by hope (Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Yes, AK doesn’t require a permit or course which I went through in 99.


93 posted on 09/18/2013 9:44:02 AM PDT by AKinAK (Keep your powder dry pilgrim.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

As long as there’s no frisking, I’ll put my money on “rather judged by 12 than carried by 6” which I’ve done for over 40 years now.


94 posted on 09/18/2013 9:46:34 AM PDT by AKinAK (Keep your powder dry pilgrim.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
The CEO has a RED HOT marketing to push...some marketers can only dream of such a magic button. Your sales are down, and if you push the button, thousands of new customers show up to buy your products. "Don't come and buy our products if you are carrying a gun...please?" Gun nuts nationally are now heading for their local Starbucks, with their guns, to sip over-priced lattes, to prove they can. And watch the sales go up. So he pushed the button. He doesn't get paid for gun control, he gets paid for sales...and he will get a raise.

Me? I cc my gun to my Starbucks every day, as usual. Buy a "medium size" (I won't play their language game) coffee in a large cup. Then go fill it up with the free milk and add free artificial sugar. A $4.65 latte for $1.25. Safe, comfortable and SECURE.

95 posted on 09/18/2013 9:55:04 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Obamacare will be a success when "I" am exempted!)
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To: Oberon

You nailed it brother. Thank you for your logical stance, I’m with you.
Take a deep breath people, relax...he’s not posting a gun ban.


96 posted on 09/18/2013 10:17:30 AM PDT by jntrees
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To: Uncle Miltie

No problem - I will bring not my guns to StarSucks or my money. I went in once, saw the price menu and left.


97 posted on 09/18/2013 1:05:44 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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