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To: First_Salute

“So, after all this Leviathanic-Mess”

I was on their website the other night, after getting a letter that my current health plan will rise up to $1140/mo. (family of 5, was $380/mo. four years ago!!). Oh, and my deductibles are doubled.

I only got so far on the website that I see their “Affordable Health Care” plan (”silver” package) will be about $1320 a month!

I started going through the various list of providers, but in pdf format, and just listing the names of the providers, and with about a dozen beginning with the letter “A”, I gave up. Will talk with my business insurance folks to see if they have a clue on this mess.


12 posted on 09/18/2013 4:46:07 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: 21twelve

When I went looking for *health insurance,* my FIRST concern, was, “Which doctors and medical centers?”

Because I want to choose ... because there are BAD doctors and there are GOOD doctors ... (which have not been mentioned much in all the “coverage” gobbledygook) ... and BAD doctors cause you grief, pain, and trouble that are usually long term.

So, I started with the doctor-patient relationship and worked outward thru the maze of providers, from there.

Group health coverage, in my opinion, has been THE DISASTER, as it presents a large cash cow IN BETWEEN you and your doctor, who answers to the cash cow as much as to you, and possibly more so, than to you.

In other words, the (supply of *good* medical doctors and specialists) / (patient demand) curve is what once set prices, but that has been corrupted by all “the suits” at Cash Cow Coverage Manipulators, Inc. (CCCM, Inc. being about as “private” as the Red Chinese Peoples’ Liberation Army’s “non-government agency/not in the news” *ownership* of the means of doing business).

Not too long ago, well maybe at least 4 decades ago, a *health insurance* company PAID YOU, THE PATIENT, and then it was up to you to pay your doctor; and *that* maintained the “meeting of the minds” / “due consideration” patient-doctor business relationship.

Group plans busted that.

Health insurance companies should be private, but the policies should have *always* been individual, not group. Especially so, that each person *FACES* their individual responsibilities.

Same for taxes. There should be *no withholding;* and payments should be estimated, quarterly, so that THE INDIVIDUAL has to write a check and FEEL/NOTICE the money coming out of their wallet.

Instead of all the bureaucratic, mystical “health coverage” that has been administered by companies and corporations for their workers.

So, along comes our government, now *insisting* that health coverage WILL BE INDIVIDUAL, much to the pleasure of the many board rooms now divorcing themselves from the mess that their “labor negotiations” created in the first place.

But the trouble is, now, that instead of private health insurance plans, there will mostly be government-sponsored, so-called “corporate” (technically: *fascist*) plans.

The true, private plans, will only be available to people making somewhere above $280,000 / year; and that largely means “the suits” plus “the lawyers” and “judges” plus select government agents/operators and of course “labor bosses.”

Who - all of them - will figure a way to make their “private plans” ... *PUBLIC* in the fashion of how a new baseball stadium is built and named after some company or bigshot, but mostly was paid for by tax dollars.

None of this ends well, meaning, it is all terribly inflationary for everybody who is *not* in the high income brackets.

All that said, the brutal fact is, that accepting a government-sponsored plan, means that the government will define what is the “quality” of the “care” “that you received.”

If you are having an emergency, you will likely be turned away from a facility that is not listed in the plan that is chained to your leg ... as the facility and its people will face penalties for attending to you while un-covered by it/them.

It’s a Leviathanic-Mess.

Businesses have yet to realize, that their workers’ attendance will become uncomfortable affairs.

There’s going to be a lot of un-rest. Lower-level and mid-level managers will face a lot of un-happiness in the ranks.

Obama will be golfing with the higher-income groups.

Basically, ObamaCare *nationalizes* economic depression, creating a wide gap between “the suits” and the rest of us.

While so many who have not had “health coverage” ... first try it ... but then *drop it* so that they can stick with their habits, which path will cost them *nothing,* as they will be somehow compensated for whatever penalty exists ... BECAUSE it’s politically un-acceptable to penalize those who enter into voluntary servitude to the state.

They are defined to be “victims,” while the many of us being forced into *involuntary servitude* to the state, are expected to cover *their costs* PLUS the costs of the higher-ups’ “doing business.”


15 posted on 09/18/2013 5:23:14 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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