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1 posted on 09/20/2013 9:48:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What do you expect from “progressives”?

We can’t have students reading the Constitution. They might find out that most of what the government does is clearly unconstitutional, and most of what they’ve been told about the Constitution is simply wrong. This undermines the propagandization of the students.


2 posted on 09/20/2013 9:53:29 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All MC admin need a class in logic and irony


4 posted on 09/20/2013 9:58:33 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: SeekAndFind

As the 1st Amendment enumerates the entire country is a Free Speech Zone. Any law, policy, or regulation that says otherwise is unconstitutional and therefore is not legal, I don’t care how many black-robed clowns rule them legal.


6 posted on 09/20/2013 10:17:06 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Constitution Day

ping


8 posted on 09/20/2013 10:55:22 AM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: SeekAndFind

I sometimes agree and sometimes disagree with Fire.

Where I disagree with Fire is in an area created NOT by the Constitution or by any other area of “free speech” jurisprudence, but in an area carved out - with the “living Constitution” by some members of SCOTUS - that treats academia as a seperate and special place, as if it was, independently and all on its own, a PUBLIC community, and it morphs that special status from the academic setting itself - the classroom - to the entire physical plant of the academy. It has effectively morphed “free speech” in the strickly academic situation and strictly academic process to legitimate “bring your political cause to school and you must also be given the school and its resources to help you do that as well”. The Marxist/Progressive/Liberal professsors have just loved how that has helped them transform the academic experience into an extension of their propaganda handed out in the classroom.

A private enterprise has no problem, under the law and under SCOTUS precedents, telling employees and visitors that its resources are not there for their personal political agendas and causes. Yet, Fire and others (including many judges) think academia, not only in the classroom, but ANYWHERE else has no such rights in protecting and limiting what its chief mission is there for (and the resources thereto). It’s not as if either students or teachers cannot, outside of the school property and without the schools resources, in the GENERAL PUBLIC COMMUNITY, and on their own time, carry on any political advocacy they chose. They can!!! But, Fire and other think a school is a special circumstance in all that. I don’t. I am all for advocating MY political causes and agendas. You, “my school” in this case, owe me nothing and are not obliged to convert your resources to mine in that agenda.

Yet, why would I support this student in this case; which I do??

He was not on any personal agenda other than the same one the school is SUPPOSED to be on - education, as he merely said, by his action: “here’s a copy of the Constitution”. His is a case where the letter of the school’s free speech (outside the classroom) rules butted up against the spirit of those rules and a wiser school administration could have easily said that his case was not against the rules because his activity - handing our copies of this nation’s Constitution - was not what the rules were set against.

His case is really more about another manifestation of “zero tolerance” rules of all sorts at schools, where mindless administrators are coached by the schools lawyers to believe that common sense and wisdom cannot over-ride the “letter of the law” of the schools rules, or there will be hell to pay from some quarter. Therefor, school administrators are taught, on the job, to “just follow and enforce the rules”, not to think.


9 posted on 09/20/2013 11:54:42 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

So, would Obobo have to stand in the free speech zone if he graced the campus with his presence to speak???


10 posted on 09/20/2013 1:59:25 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: SeekAndFind

Handing out the constitution on ‘Constituion Day’???

Oh, the infamy!


11 posted on 09/20/2013 2:11:21 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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