Posted on 09/22/2013 9:19:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
“Hit em, and I’ll hit you back.”
Oh I’d do a lot more than just hit them back, both physically and legally.
Er, right. I don’t want the police to beat my children (or me) either.
I can’t get over the fact that most of you barely trust public school teachers to teach children arithmetic, but it’s A-OK for them to decide when it’s appropriate to paddle other people’s kids.
Mine is hardly a novel idea either. Didn’t the mother in Little Women pull her youngest daughter out of school because a teacher struck her? That book was written in the 1860s.
“I am really surprised it’s still legal in so many states.”
It’s the Neanderthal states of the South for the most part, with Texas leading the pack with about 50,000 kids hit per year. Then there’s Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, etc. Mostly places where “outdoor plumbing” and double wide’s proliferate, and where there are a lot of Reverend BillyBobs.
Go here for all the stats:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0934191.html
Yes. Provided it’s a legit school. You know not some cut rate glorified babysitting center.
So, not a public school, then. I could get on board with that...
>>You mean you don’t want a public sector union goon hitting your children? How liberal of you!
Lol! Yes, the face of “new conservationism” is scary, indeed.
What does that have to do with the price of eggs?
Wow. Corporal punishment was banned in my state only a year before I started school. I had no idea.
My has no memory of corporal punishment being used at her NY public school (she laughed when I asked her, and did not believe it could have possibly been legal then), and it wasn’t banned there till ‘85. She graduated from high school in 1972. By the time it was outlawed I’m guessing it hadn’t been used it most schools for decades.
Dittos. When I was the old man, it was my decision to make and execute, not some school drones I can't trust to wipe themselves after a BM. The problem I have with the school doing it is I might not agree with them, and here is my kid having been hit.
If they think he needs it, explain it to me and I will decide. Meanwhile, yes you hit 'em, I'll hit you back.
You are the only one talking about beating, which manifests you will have a tendency to beat your children instead of spanking them, which is something completely different.
I think anyone who thinks corporal punishment is bad and who admits they don’t have kids is just here to amuse themselves
so have fun
That should have read, “My *mother has no memory . . .”
Sorry, I’ll rephrase: I don’t want the police to strike my children (or me) either.
Lol. That’s like saying a man can’t have an opinion on abortion.
I’d like to know that when I do have children, they will not be struck by their teachers.
And though I do not yet have children, I did have parents, who did not hit me, and I am thankful for that. They also had parents who did not hit them. And none of us ever received school-sanctioned paddlings. I think I can safely say that I will never purposely strike my future children, the same way I know I will never murder a person for fun, lead an art heist, etc.
(Note: I’m not comparing those last two actions to spanking; I’m just saying it is possible to know that there are things that I will never do.)
I wrote a paper on corporal punishment for an undergrad psych class once. I didn’t have to be a parent to do research in scholarly journals and form an educated opinion.
“So, not a public school, then. I could get on board with that... “
Well as I stated in an earlier comment my oldest daughter graduated from a charter school but it was part of the public school system so we didn’t need a voucher.
There was a charter school some years ago in Houston that was getting state funds but operating independantly from the public school district. They collected a lot of money and still weren’t turning out students who could pass all the various tests required to graduate and get into a college.
It was a bit like McSchool lol. Those are the types of schools I was talking about.
“Where and when were you in school where kids were beaten....not spanked or ruler on palm ala nuns.....for not having homework done?
I went to school deep south in 60s and never saw or heard of such a thing
Never saw a child BEATEN.....not once.
And I was a bad kid.....spanked once last day of 6th grade paddle
Once 7th grads ....paddle...for fighting
Once 8th grade paddle for making a PMS young teacher cry
9th grade for skipping class.....frat paddle....that left marks
4 times in 9 years....and I was full of mischief”
I think the thing that caught my eye was the word, “beaten”. I have the same questions as you, wardaddy.
“You haven’t appropriated Dickens for yourself have you?”
Please, may I have some more? ;o)
I have a hard time relating to your concept of the word “beat”.
Maybe you’ve never really experienced it?
BTW, what kind of school “beat” you for misspelling a word?
This was overseas. And yes, it went beyond spanking or a whack with the ruler in some cases. It was not always not having homework done, but having incorrect answers. Roger Waters didn’t always exaggerate.
Since Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were big fans of public schools (read the second chapter of the Communist Manifesto), my regard for such schools’ validity has diminished to a very low point.
I didn't use the word "beat", I said we got "swats"
Maybe you’ve never really experienced it?
I'm sorry you think I'm a liar. I'm not.
BTW, what kind of school “beat” you for misspelling a word?
Again, I never said "beat". The school year was 1953-1954 and our 4 th grade teacher was old and set in her ways. I don't judge her for doing it, it's probably the way she was taught spelling at that age, either that or she was just plain old mean.
By the way, my 5 th. grade teacher was a sister of the 4th grade teacher, she did not use that method.
What is conservationism?
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