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[CT] Coalition to take on gun lobby
Danbury News-Times ^ | 9/24/2013 | Keila Torres Ocasio

Posted on 09/24/2013 7:21:37 AM PDT by ModernDayCato

A day after President Barack Obama visited the Washington Naval Yard, site of the nation's latest mass shooting, local and federal officials called on citizens across the country to form a coalition large enough to battle the powerful gun lobby.

At a roundtable discussion at the Margaret Morton Government Center in Bridgeport on Monday, U.S. Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., said he and other senators will only be able to take on the gun lobby and pass stronger gun laws if people throughout the nation speak up.

"What makes the NRA strong is that they can mobilize tens of thousands of people on a dime," he said. "They can make it sound like a majority because of the echo effect. We need to match that kind of grass-roots coalition."

"Any change we can make that can save just one life, be it a child or an adult, would be worth the effort," said Neil Heslin, father of Jesse Lewis, one of the 20 first-graders killed in the Sandy Hook School massacre in Newtown last December.

Heslin has been a public presence at gun violence hearings and forums all year.

Sitting beside him was Jackie Pettway, who brought nearly everyone to tears when she described the pain she still feels after losing her son, LaChristopher Pettway, just two weeks ago during a shooting incident.

She said when her son was shot he had been trying to move younger people at the scene out of the area.

"I would never want this kind of pain I feel sitting here right now inflicted on another mother," said Pettway, who buried her son last week.

She said she was relieved, but received little comfort, when Bridgeport police quickly arrested a city man and charged him with the shooting.

"No one is a winner here," Pettway said. "That child is an 18-year-old that killed my 26-year-old. The only difference is his mom will visit her son in jail and I will visit my son in a cemetery."

Although Connecticut passed stricter gun laws months after the Newtown shooting, a federal attempt to get expanded background checks for all gun-buyers died in the Senate earlier this year, in large part due to opposition from the National Rifle Association, its lobbyists and supporters.

Robert Crook, director of the Connecticut Coalition of Sportsmen, who was not invited to the roundtable discussion, said he doubted the restrictive gun laws, like expanding background checks and banning assault weapons, would pass even if an opposing coalition is formed.

"The gun people are way more active than the non-gun people," he said. "They have no documentation. Show us the facts, not emotion. Legislators look at votes and they look at money and they look at citizens' opinions."

Restrictive gun laws only affect law-abiding citizens anyway because criminals aren't known for adhering to laws, said Scott Wilson, president of the Connecticut Citizens Defense League.

He said the NRA provides safety training and is just trying to protect citizens' Second Amendment right to bear arms.

The senators were just using the discussion on gun violence to deflect attention away from Congress' failure to address the nation's economic woes, Wilson said.

But local lawmakers and their allies argue the federal gun laws will make a difference.

Ron Pinciaro, of Connecticut Against Gun Violence, said the state has the fifth fewest gun deaths in the nation. He attributed that to the fact that Connecticut also has some of the strictest gun laws.

U.S. Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., said mass shootings have become the new normal in the nation in the last few years, and the country had been too complacent.

"What we are here to say today is we intend to build a political movement that lasts years and decades," Murphy said. "We are here to tell the gun lobby that we are not going away."

Monte Frank, a member of the Newtown Action Alliance, said gun lobbyists shouldn't underestimate the impact of activism in the state.

"The Connecticut effect has emerged into an American effect because gun violence has no borders," he said.

But Crook said those pushing for new laws are making a mistake: they are not focusing enough time and effort on the underlying issues behind gun violence, especially mental illness.

It was the one thing the roundtable participants and gun enthusiasts agreed on.

The Rev. Richardo Griffith, an East End activist, said local church leaders need to play an active part in guiding local youth away from violence and providing services to the community.

"It is time for us to take control of our streets," he said.

Bridgeport Assistant Police Chief James Nardozzi said many of the shootings in the city are caused by conflicts between members of opposing gangs.

"This gun culture and lack of conflict resolution skills also calls for an educational component," Nardozzi said.

Blumenthal said he believes national gun reform is possible if people across the nation unite.

"It will take time and it will take a sustained effort," he said.


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Sigh. I have to get out of this state.
1 posted on 09/24/2013 7:21:37 AM PDT by ModernDayCato
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To: ModernDayCato

I was out on a lake the other day still trying to find my lost firearms that sunk with my boat. Funny, I thought I saw another Freeper there looking for his too.


2 posted on 09/24/2013 7:24:01 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mouton

Think that might have been me. Shame I lost the boat too.


3 posted on 09/24/2013 7:25:09 AM PDT by ModernDayCato
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To: ModernDayCato

“....save just one life.” I feel for the grieving father who said that, but I’ve always detested that language. No, sir.....shredding the Constitution to save one life is not a trade I’m willing to make.


4 posted on 09/24/2013 7:25:38 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: ModernDayCato

...local and federal officials called on citizens across the country to form a coalition large enough to battle the powerful gun lobby.


By definition that is astroturf.


5 posted on 09/24/2013 7:25:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ModernDayCato

The Nazis are on the march across the nation.


6 posted on 09/24/2013 7:26:02 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: ModernDayCato

Leftists will never recognize the real causes behind so-called “gun violence”.

And that’s 50+ years of liberal social policy.


7 posted on 09/24/2013 7:28:07 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: ModernDayCato

But Alexis was following Joe The Clown Biden’s advice and bought a shotgun, totally legally and with a background check. You mean the gun grabbers are now going to outlaw shotguns? What will Jill Biden use for protection then? ...Oh yeah, that detail of taxpayer-funded Secret Service protection will probably take up the slack for the Veep and his Mrs.


8 posted on 09/24/2013 7:30:00 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: clintonh8r

“This gun culture and lack of conflict resolution skills also calls for an educational component,” Nardozzi said.

Nice little suggestion that the ignorant masses are in need of reeducation. Starting with the children.

Surprising somebody didn’t shout “Nobody’s coming to take away your guns!!”


9 posted on 09/24/2013 7:33:55 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: ModernDayCato

I say we just ask them if they just want to take our guns and when they say yes we shoot them and end this push for tyranny.


10 posted on 09/24/2013 7:35:04 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Mouton

“What makes the NRA strong is that they can mobilize tens of thousands of people on a dime,..”

Correction: “...can mobilize tens of thousands of gun owners at any time.” - best they remember.


11 posted on 09/24/2013 7:35:38 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: ModernDayCato
A rhetorical question:

Why is there a "gun lobby", but no one in the kneepad media ever refers to the opposition as an "anti-gun lobby"?

12 posted on 09/24/2013 7:39:15 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: elcid1970

Simply tell the “ If you don’t like our current gun laws, then change them by amending the constitution”


13 posted on 09/24/2013 7:40:19 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: ModernDayCato

How come they never talk about the “gun control lobby”?


14 posted on 09/24/2013 7:40:39 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: ModernDayCato
the Washington Naval Yard, site of the nation's latest mass shooting

Wasn't there another weekend of mayhem in Chicago this weekend?

15 posted on 09/24/2013 7:43:12 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: ModernDayCato

One wonders how many of these politicians snort Coke, or ignore the deaths caused by deadly drugs in far greater numbers than those caused by sicko gunmen.


16 posted on 09/24/2013 7:44:46 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: elcid1970

Such a pity that the mall shoppers in Nairobi were not skilled in conflict resolution skills.


17 posted on 09/24/2013 7:47:55 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: ModernDayCato
U.S. Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., said mass shootings have become the new normal in the nation in the last few years, and the country had been too complacent.

A most ridiculous lie.

If mass shootings were the new normal, then there would be fewer solitary victims than victims of mass shooting events.

Obvious untruths in the pursuit of tyranny have the same reek as tyranny itself, regardless of stated motive.

18 posted on 09/24/2013 7:52:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe


The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it.

— H.L. Mencken



19 posted on 09/24/2013 7:57:45 AM PDT by glock rocks (No comment.)
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To: ModernDayCato

A gaggle of fools and traitors. When are they going to realize that gun free zones are the same thing as target rich free fire zones? Bad guys will always be able to get guns, wherever they are at.


20 posted on 09/24/2013 8:01:01 AM PDT by rogator
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

I don’t believe the Constitution can be amended to strip individuals of their God given rights. If it could, then it really isn’t a right.


21 posted on 09/24/2013 8:05:24 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I don’t believe the Constitution can be amended to strip individuals of their God given rights. If it could, then it really isn’t a right.

Exactly. The “Bill of Rights” are inalienable rights.


22 posted on 09/24/2013 8:10:55 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: ModernDayCato
Ron Pinciaro, of Connecticut Against Gun Violence, said the state has the fifth fewest gun deaths in the nation. He attributed that to the fact that Connecticut also has some of the strictest gun laws.

But Connecticut is sixth in the death by knife category. source I reckon if there isn't going to be a gunfight, bringing a knife is OK.

I must note that over half of the victims are listed as "white", so banning white folks should reduce the murder rate by at least half, right?

It makes just as much sense to blame the victim as the tool rather than place the blame where it belongs--on a nutcase or criminal psychopath.

If laws against murder won't stop people from murdering others, what makes these nitwits think laws against guns will?

The Sandy hook shooting could have as easily been a slaughter with a machete or blunt instrument(s). There was no effective means present to defend against either of those, either.

23 posted on 09/24/2013 8:11:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: ModernDayCato

These anti-freedom gun groups would not exist and would not be continuing their assaults on society’s true protectors were it not for the behind-the-scenes money that is available for them. They create groups to chase after the big dollars that wealthy leftists offer them. That is where the real explanation for these groups lies.


24 posted on 09/24/2013 8:14:04 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: ModernDayCato

The Anti-gun people depend on people with Guns to enforce their ideology.


25 posted on 09/24/2013 8:20:22 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Democrats = Communists. RINO Republicans = Communist Sympathizers.)
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To: glock rocks
Mencken was right, of course, but the problem is compounded with useful idiots and "true believers".

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

CS Lewis

Thus tyranny advances, by popular acclaim.

26 posted on 09/24/2013 8:23:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: ModernDayCato

2nd amendment: It’s The Law of the Land……

Ohhh that’s right! That’s only the case when the National Socialist Left deems it to be the case. ///sarc.


27 posted on 09/24/2013 8:34:27 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: Mouton

Wow! I hear that happening all over the places these days.


28 posted on 09/24/2013 8:35:23 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: ModernDayCato

This announcement is particularly repugnant because it comes from the mouth of the most loathsome and vile of liars, Richard “Fake Vietnam Veteran” Blumenthal.

I had the misfortune to be present when he lied about his fictional “service” in Vietnam to a group of elderly citizens being commended for helping wounded vets from Afghanistan and Iraq. I didn’t know about his LIE at the time, but he spewed his false testimony to veterans of WWII and Korea without any hesitation. The fact that this bum is a U.S. Senator from my home state breaks my heart. Nothing that he says has a speck of credibility.


29 posted on 09/24/2013 8:42:41 AM PDT by CharlesThe Hammer
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To: ModernDayCato
"Any change we can make that can save just one life,"

Banning swimming pools and peanut butter would save more kids then banning guns.

And they aren't going up against the "gun lobby", what ever that is, they are going up against 80 million gun owners and the Constitutional Rights of everyone in the country.

30 posted on 09/24/2013 8:49:58 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: ModernDayCato

got my wife out of MA and she said it was the best move she had ever done. Now we live in St Augustine, St Johns county north east FL which is one of the most republican counties in the state.

red is republican , blue obviously the small college and the small black area.

We have no Dems here and my wife feels we are much more free .

Good luck at getting out of CT or New England.


31 posted on 09/24/2013 8:53:48 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: billhilly

wonder what the numbers are for drug deaths which never seem to be mentioned.


32 posted on 09/24/2013 8:55:15 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ModernDayCato; DTogo; matt04
Sigh. I have to get out of this state.

I hear ya. Wish we could do the same... we're stuck here for now unfortunately.

33 posted on 09/24/2013 8:59:52 AM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, FReeper Extraordinaire Doctor Raoul...)
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To: ModernDayCato

Any politician who engages in overturning the 2nd Amendment should be immediately removed from office and prosecuted for treason. 0bama has made treason fashionable whereas it should be punishable with a long prison term.


34 posted on 09/24/2013 9:01:23 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: Mouton
I was out on a lake the other day still trying to find my lost firearms that sunk with my boat. Funny, I thought I saw another Freeper there looking for his too.


35 posted on 09/24/2013 9:32:45 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: billhilly






...maybe a little blow...

- Barack Hussein Obama II






36 posted on 09/24/2013 10:09:08 AM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- ----- shall not infringe ----- ----- ----- -----)
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To: ModernDayCato

"Any change we can make that can save just one life,

Lets trade the blood for the millions who have died for our freedom for "just one life". Who can argue with that logic?

37 posted on 09/24/2013 10:11:27 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: ModernDayCato
Neil Heslin, father of Jesse Lewis, one of the 20 first-graders killed in the Sandy Hook School

I refuse to treat him or any other of the other parents of SH who are running around for more gun control. They are politicians, not grieving parents. BTW, were are they getting the money to do this?

38 posted on 09/24/2013 10:30:58 AM PDT by matt04
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Ron Pinciaro, of Connecticut Against Gun Violence, said the state has the fifth fewest gun deaths in the nation. He attributed that to the fact that Connecticut also has some of the strictest gun laws.

Ok, Ron. Do me a favor and go the south side of Chicago and tell me how the strictest gun laws in the nation are working.

39 posted on 09/24/2013 10:34:25 AM PDT by matt04
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To: ModernDayCato
"Any change we can make that can save just one life, be it a child or an adult, would be worth the effort,"

Ban alcohol and drugs you gutless nutcase.

40 posted on 09/24/2013 4:30:05 PM PDT by johnny reb (When in the course of human events.....)
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#4 Obama’s line, Biden’s line, etc. “If it would save one life..” while killing other unprotected innocent people as “collateral damage”.

The libs never think of anything but power.

Blumenthal - a proven liar. He’s a good one to talk but he’s a nut, typical of Conn. Democrats.

a once literally crime-free state (I used to visit relatives in Bridgeport and Trumbull over the past 50 years). Last time I was in Bridgeport it looked like Puerto Rico, Sons of Anarchy, and Philadelphia (where I also lived in the 60’s).

That’s nothing to brag about, Blumenthal, you ahole.


41 posted on 09/24/2013 4:35:12 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Smokin' Joe

The number of people killed in mass shootings hasn’t really changed much in decades, despite stricter laws. The population has increased, so the potential for being a mass shooting victim has gone down.


42 posted on 09/24/2013 5:23:25 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Maceman

How come we don’t have a gang control lobby?


43 posted on 09/24/2013 5:39:16 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

You know they had heavily armed police at that event, most likely with eeeeeeevil SBR’s.


44 posted on 09/24/2013 5:41:00 PM PDT by matt04
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The Nazis are on the march across the nation.

I hate Connecticut Nazis (and the rest of them, too).

45 posted on 09/24/2013 5:41:41 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: txrefugee

46 posted on 09/24/2013 5:45:30 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: matt04

Ron seems to be pretty SLOW. Comparing Connecticut with Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, etc. is something only retards would do. The metrosexual city boys can have all of the gun control they want. They just don’t need to bring that crap out west. We don’t need it.


47 posted on 09/24/2013 5:47:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: ModernDayCato
Ron Pinciaro, of Connecticut Against Gun Violence, said the state has the fifth fewest gun deaths in the nation. He attributed that to the fact that Connecticut also has some of the strictest gun laws.

That explains why the other places with the strictest gun control laws in the nation - Chicago, New York City, New Orleans, Washington D.C. - have virtually no shootings at all. Well, some. Well, a lot.

48 posted on 09/24/2013 5:51:37 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Smokin' Joe

Is there an accurate list of what nations have the highest and lowest gun death rates, i.e. the highest and lowest numbers of gun deaths and gun murders per capita? If we can see an accurate list and compare and contrast their gun control policies, maybe that can help defenders of the 2nd Amendment crush the opposition on this.

It would be great to have a complete collection of this material since this is getting grating and tiring and I want the arguments of the gun grabbers to be crushed and shredded and obliterated so badly that nobody with an iota of common sense would ever, ever believe them.


49 posted on 09/24/2013 6:15:00 PM PDT by freedom462
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To: smokingfrog

While we are distracted, he moves to have this signed!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/24/kerry-to-sign-un-arms-treaty-Kerry to sign UN arms treaty, despite senators’ opposition
Published September 24, 2013 • FoxNews.
Secretary of State John Kerry plans to sign a controversial U.N. treaty on arms regulation on Wednesday, a senior State Department official told Fox News — despite warnings from lawmakers that the Senate will not ratify the agreement.

A State official said the treaty would “reduce the risk that international transfers of conventional arms will be used to carry out the world’s worst crimes,” while protecting gun rights.

“The treaty builds on decades of cooperative efforts to stem the international, illegal, and illicit trade in conventional weapons that benefits terrorists and rogue agents,” the official said.

U.S. lawmakers, though, have long claimed that the treaty could lead to new gun control measures. Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., one of the most vocal opponents of the treaty, sent a letter to Kerry declaring it “dead in the water,” since a majority of senators has gone on record against the agreement.

“The administration is wasting precious time trying to sign away our laws to the global community and unelected U.N. bureaucrats,” he wrote.

Kerry, who is in New York attending the U.N. General Assembly session, announced earlier this year that the administration planned to sign the treaty.

The treaty would require countries that ratify it to establish national regulations to control the transfer of conventional arms and components and to regulate arms brokers, but it will not explicitly control the domestic use of weapons in any country.

Still, gun-rights supporters on Capitol Hill warn the treaty could be used as the basis for additional gun regulations inside the U.S. and have threatened not to ratify.

Over the summer, 130 members of Congress signed a letter to President Obama and Kerry urging them to reject the measure for this and other reasons.

The chance of adoption by the U.S. is slim. A two-thirds majority would be needed in the Senate to ratify.

What impact the treaty will have in curbing the estimated $60 billion global arms trade remains to be seen. The U.N. treaty will take effect after 50 countries ratify it, and a lot will depend on which ones ratify and which ones don’t, and how stringently it is implemented.

The Control Arms Coalition, which includes hundreds of non-governmental organizations in more than 100 countries that promoted an Arms Trade Treaty, has said it expects many of the world’s top arms exporters — including Britain, Germany and France — to sign alongside emerging exporters such as Brazil and Mexico. It said the United States is expected to sign later this year.

The coalition notes that more than 500,000 people are killed by armed violence every year and predicted that “history will be made” when many U.N. members sign the treaty, which it says is designed “to protect millions living in daily fear of armed violence and at risk of rape, assault, displacement and death.”

Many violence-wracked countries, including Congo and South Sudan, are also expected to sign. The coalition said their signature — and ratification — will make it more difficult for illicit arms to cross borders.

The treaty covers battle tanks, armored combat vehicles, large-caliber artillery systems, combat aircraft, attack helicopters, warships, missiles and missile launchers, and small arms and light weapons.

It prohibits states that ratify it from transferring conventional weapons if they violate arms embargoes or if they promote acts of genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes. The treaty also prohibits the export of conventional arms if they could be used in attacks on civilians or civilian buildings such as schools and hospitals.

In addition, the treaty requires countries to take measures to prevent the diversion of conventional weapons to the illicit market. This is among the provisions that gun-rights supporters in Congress are concerned about.

Fox News’ Nicole Busch and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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50 posted on 09/24/2013 8:48:20 PM PDT by OFFERMOM (IRS Conduct Regs)
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