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Rick Perry: Shutting down government to defund Obamacare not a good option
Yahoo ^ | September 25, 2013 | Jeff Zeleny, Richard Coolidge, and Jordyn Phelps

Posted on 09/25/2013 6:44:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW

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To: Ben Ficklin
Public opinion? You mean the carefully controlled propaganda by the press that went unanswered by Rove?

Are you a Perry supporter? No one made him jump on the Rino bandwagon. He leapt all by himself.

61 posted on 09/25/2013 8:41:38 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

“I like Perry but he did support the establishment candidate over Cruz in the election. He is wrong. Why do they only think in terms of fixing a bad legislation? How much fixing ever gets done in DC?”

Oh come on! Perry is a douche bag, and he’s not very smart to boot! Texas needs to elect a whole lot more Ted Cruz’ and a whole lot fewer Perry’s (and Cornyn’s and Dewhurst’s, etc.) Like everywhere else, Texas has the talent, they just need to be smart enough to elect it.


62 posted on 09/25/2013 8:47:41 AM PDT by vette6387 (o)
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To: vette6387

Perry still thinks we are heartless


63 posted on 09/25/2013 8:48:22 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

“Perry still thinks we are heartless”

Yeah, and he’s one of those “low Testosterone, invertebrate” RINOs!


64 posted on 09/25/2013 8:51:02 AM PDT by vette6387 (o)
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To: vette6387

RINO Jelly


65 posted on 09/25/2013 8:55:30 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: DJ MacWoW
"Carefully controlled propaganda"

I don't see it as propaganda. I think that the public gradually began to see that the "Intelligence", which was used as the justification for Iraq, was phony and contrived.

I know that it was a gradual realization for me.

And it was made worse by the fact that something that was supposed to take 18 months, took more than 8 years. And cost a lot of blood and money.

Which takes you back to McCain and Romney. Both of them ran on NeoCon foreign policies and the public had had enough of the NeoCons during the Bush Presidency. If you look at all the GOP candidates in 2012, all of them ran NeoCon, except for Huntsman.

66 posted on 09/25/2013 8:59:40 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: GeronL

I don’t think the RINOS get it. If Obamacare happens on October 1 and the country goes to crap in 2014, the MSM is going to blame Republicans for not stopping it since they run congress.

They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. So why compromise?


67 posted on 09/25/2013 9:00:56 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Make today a great day. Insult a liberal.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The RINO’s are simply closet Democrats. They do not want what we want.


68 posted on 09/25/2013 9:07:38 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Ben Ficklin
This thread is about Perry and the fact that he jumped on the Rino bandwagon with both feet.

I support Cruz. Perry never has.

69 posted on 09/25/2013 9:09:44 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Ben Ficklin

No, the guy who got the nomination got it because none of the others could survive without shooting themselves in the foot. Cain had multiple women problems. Gingrich screwed himself with his staff issues (and, I’m told, his wife’s butt-inski methods). Santorum was conservative but had a horrible track record of winning elections. You can’t beat something with nuthin.


70 posted on 09/25/2013 9:14:41 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’ll just wait and see where Cruz comes down on foreign policy. As a generalization, Cuban republicans are NeoCons.


71 posted on 09/25/2013 9:15:55 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
I am concerned with this issue. Defunding Obamacare is of primary concern now. Any other issue is for another day.
72 posted on 09/25/2013 9:30:51 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Perry just wants to give all those illegal aliens free medical care so he can buy votes with it.


73 posted on 09/25/2013 9:35:34 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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Cruz is a highly skilled rhetorician. Probably better than Obama, Clinton or Reagan
74 posted on 09/25/2013 9:36:14 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: LS

Actually there are three reasons he did not get to first base 1) he started to late 2) he didn’t have sufficient money 3).................... OOPS!


75 posted on 09/25/2013 1:05:00 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Perry’s still pissed because his buddy Dewhurst got a good old A$$kicking!!!


76 posted on 09/25/2013 1:06:44 PM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: ontap

Grudges in politics are ugly things. Moreover they hurt Americans.


77 posted on 09/25/2013 1:12:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And if you get cheated you deserve to lose. Sorry, Perry was a lame candidate and constantly shot himself in the foot with his “debate” answers. If Romney had run against Obama the way he ran against the other Republican’s he’d be in the White House now. But if the other Republicans had been better at defeating Romney, the story would be different. When you know someone is cheating, it’s up to you to either change the rules or adapt.


78 posted on 09/25/2013 4:42:02 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS

The RNC had no intention of winning.


79 posted on 09/25/2013 4:44:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

These lightweights don’t seem to understand how to play the media. How would Cruz’ filibuster even be a news story if the threat of shutting down the government wasn’t on the table? That’s what gives his endeavor some teeth to it and makes it a story that has to be covered. And that allows him to make his voice heard and get the facts out there on Obamacare, in turn helping chip away at support for it the same way Reagan chipped away at the USSR. Unbelievable how these people can’t think outside the box.

Meanwhile, Cruz is right that if the public lights up the switchboards, they could defund it now. But even if that doesn’t happen, which his own team stabbing him in the back makes more likely, reminding the public about the problems with Obamacare helps to repeal it in the long-term. How in the world does shutting up and not saying anything about it or fighting it every chance you get help to build up any movement to repeal it?


80 posted on 09/25/2013 4:55:34 PM PDT by JediJones (Impeach Pennsylvania Attorney General Kathleen Kane for Derelection of Duty)
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