Posted on 09/25/2013 7:11:30 PM PDT by gaijin
Five minute handycam videos show crash of apparent SU-22 amidst AAA and surface to air missile fire. Presumably taken by FSA rebels, video clip collection shows six different views of the same event.
First clip is totally inconclusive, however subsequent clips in the collection suggest the most likely cause was a successful MANPADS hit.
Fire is visible from the aircraft tailcone as the strike aircraft arcs through the sky and strikes the ground in a huge ball of smoke, with no pilot ejection discernible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja9divCVW94
After the success of Reagan's post-Lockerbie Libyan air raids Gaddaffi went on a years-long MANPADS buying binge.
20,000 MANPADS were in Libya at the time of Gaddaffi's demise, with over said to have been looted after the violence directed against the US Mission in Bengazi, Libya.
SU-22 today, sure --tomorrow Boston Logan?
Almost looks like afterburner.
I’m not sure the plane went down, or was hit by a MANPAD. From what I can tell, it may have been struck by AAA but the pilot was able to continue flying it for some distance.
I don't know what an SU-22 looks like on afterburner but whatever is coming out of the tailpipe is a hot flame without smoke suggesting the engine is still producing thrust and fuel is passing through in a somewhat controlled manner.
I didn't see evidence of a MANPAD strike or of large bore AAA. Looks like a malfunction, small/minor AAA hit, or as you suggested, afterburner.
Looks like he popped flares, lit the afterburner, and got the heck out of there. I don’t think it was a shoot-down.
I am sure you saw the whole video and did not simply rely on the second video comment?
I watched the whole video. It even looks like at the end that the jet throttles back and the flame out the tail pipe is reduced. Not a shoot-down and no man-pads IMHO.
Tell me? Are the ‘un-accounted-for’ manpads a real or made-up threat?
manpads ping
CIA manpads
When it happens, you can thank “What difference does it make?” Killary Clinton.
At 0:23 on the video it shows an explosion on the ground. I am assuming they think it was a plane crashing. I have my doubts. More like a bomb was dropped. Plane got away without a problem.
the world needs to eradicate all who shout allahu akbar
no trace remaining
Not AB’s. May have taken a small arms fire. AB’s taper and rings can be seen in the exhaust area. Even in old jets. Question that needs to be answered is; If I am coming in hot to an area that only has small arms fire, why would I pop flares? Does their intelligence say there is something else there? Possibly shoulder fired anti-aircraft missles? Just a thing to make you go hhhmmmmm.
I agree about the explosion coming from a bomb.
If the plane was malfunctioning, or was hit by small AA, the pilot was still able to maintain control for the duration of the video which probably enabled him to get over friendly territory.
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