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Senator Says Politics Have Reached Civil War Levels
National Journal ^ | September 27, 2013 | Matt Berman

Posted on 09/27/2013 8:35:22 AM PDT by yoe

Sen. Tom Harkin to Congress: "We are at one of the most dangerous points in our history."

As the clock ticks down toward a possible government shutdown, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, isn't holding back.

On the Senate floor before 10 a.m. Friday, the senator gave a speech describing how American politics have reached the level at which "a small group of willful men and women who have a certain ideology"—read: the tea party and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas—have been able to take over the congressional budget debate in the last week. "Since they can't get their way," Harkin said, "they're going to create this confusion and discourse and hope that the public will be so mixed up in who is to blame for this, that they'll blame both sides."

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To: Texas Fossil
Those ornery Scot/Irish my ancestors claimed to descend from were not governable either.

I've some of those 'ornery' genes my own self :-)

81 posted on 09/27/2013 10:04:18 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: KittenClaws
Wrong war, senator.

Enlighten us please.....

82 posted on 09/27/2013 10:07:14 AM PDT by yoe ( Defund Obamacare now — or risk voter backlash in 2014)
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To: central_va
I am still not comfortable with the color coding of the states.

Remember that it was the liberal media who switched the colors on us. I forget exactly when they did that, but it was because they didn't want to be identified as 'red' because it was too close to the truth of Commie red.

Didn't do 'em any good. Most of us are perfectly comfortable with it now.

83 posted on 09/27/2013 10:08:25 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Errant
Get ready. They are not spending all this money for show.

MAX ALERT: CDC Plans Live EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM Pandemic Flu Broadcast

84 posted on 09/27/2013 10:09:17 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The username is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: NTHockey

Locked and loaded here in Wisconsin. Bring it on demodummies.


85 posted on 09/27/2013 10:10:17 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: yoe

“We are at one of the most dangerous points in our history.”

Good. Then they won’t be surprised.


86 posted on 09/27/2013 10:10:34 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: justa-hairyape

Agree. From here on, things will start to get interesting real fast.


87 posted on 09/27/2013 10:13:35 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Windflier
I forget exactly when they did that...

(i.e., Rednecks)

88 posted on 09/27/2013 10:16:53 AM PDT by Errant
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To: yoe

Shut it down.


89 posted on 09/27/2013 10:18:14 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: central_va
Sesecession yes, Civil War no. The Red State wienies don’t have the gumption to fight.

Secession is a valid option to weaken the Federal parasite class.

However, looking across our Republic, I can't see one Governor who has a Warrior mindset in the cause of Liberty.

The political class of both parties are quickly marching us towards rabid Socialism.

90 posted on 09/27/2013 10:19:37 AM PDT by sand88
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To: yoe

Enlighten us please.....


This would be more like the Revolutionary War - 1776 kind of stuff.

Are you enlightened now?


91 posted on 09/27/2013 10:22:36 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Windflier
Remember that it was the liberal media who switched the colors on us. I forget exactly when they did that, but it was because they didn't want to be identified as 'red' because it was too close to the truth of Commie red.

It was the 2000 election cycle, when they desperately wanted Algore to win - so much so that they started to mis-report the election returns to suppress the GOP turnout.

That year set the pattern for this nation's current condition.

92 posted on 09/27/2013 10:23:19 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: yoe
Sen. Tom Harkin to Congress: "We are at one of the most dangerous points in our history."

Yes we are senator, thanks to a radical ideologue in the White House, a supine Congress, and a sycophantic media. If they want a civil war, I say bring it on.

93 posted on 09/27/2013 10:27:39 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: yoe
"Since they can't get their way," Harkin said, "they're going to create this confusion and discourse and hope that the public will be so mixed up in who is to blame for this, that they'll blame both sides."

There's plenty of blame to go around, especially for career hacks like Harkin.

94 posted on 09/27/2013 10:29:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Errant
Agree. From here on, things will start to get interesting real fast.

At this point it looks like they are planning to install the fake flu emergency right after the public is forced to start joining the very unpopular Obamacare exchanges. They must be anticipating a major backlash. Cruz's "filibuster" was an example of the coming backlash. If they can however get Obamacare delayed by one year, then they will probably hold off until next year. IMHO.

95 posted on 09/27/2013 10:32:12 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The username is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: yoe

Senator Says Politics Have Reached Civil War Levels

"Civil War" or "Revolutionary War"? I suspect the latter. Keep your powder dry.


96 posted on 09/27/2013 10:33:24 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: yoe
It's all the Republicans fault. As the Democrats went far left and consistently forced that agenda down the people's throat the Republicans have NOT BEEN THE OPOSITION PARTY.

BRING ON THE NEW OPPOSITION PARTY and throw the other bums out by recall or in the primaries IMO. Send them ZERO money for the bad votes and maybe as a token of your love send them a Depends diaper.

97 posted on 09/27/2013 10:35:59 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: yoe

I’m in when does it start!


98 posted on 09/27/2013 10:44:33 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: Gritty

You said “We seek a restoration, not a revolution.”

I concur, the left is counter-revolutionaries [to the war for independence] we are restorationists [sp?]


99 posted on 09/27/2013 10:50:29 AM PDT by alphadog (2nd Bn. 3rd Marines, Vietnam, class of 68)
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To: yoe

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


100 posted on 09/27/2013 10:51:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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