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President Obama and Israel: Looming confrontations
Jerusalem Post ^ | 09/29/201 | ISI LEIBLER

Posted on 09/30/2013 5:31:05 AM PDT by SJackson

CANDIDLY SPEAKING: The US and Europe are desperate for a face-saving situation to avoid confrontation with the Iranians.

One might have hoped that Obama’s calamitous mishandling of recent Middle East crises, climaxing with his disastrous response to the Syrian use of chemical weapons, would have taught him a few lessons on regional politics.

Regrettably his address to the United Nations General Assembly last week proved otherwise. By reverting to his original Cairo speech – insisting that resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian peace “would have a profound and positive impact on the entire Middle East and North Africa” – Obama has caused many Israelis to question not merely his competence, but also his real intentions toward Israel.

The notion that the stability of the entire Middle East region hinges on the resolution of the Israeli- Palestinian conflict is utterly absurd. Our conflict has no bearing on the complex and far more problematic conflicts and pressure points surrounding us: the struggle between Sunnis and Shi’ites; the resurgence of al-Qaida; the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood; the persecution and murder of Christians throughout the Muslim world; the threat of a nuclear Iran; the chaos in Libya and Yemen; the upheavals in Egypt; the global Islamic terror attacks extending from New York to Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Mali, and most recently Kenya; and above all, the carnage in Syria. To place responsibility for regional stability on Israel in the midst of this chaos is a terrible misreading of reality.

To compound matters, Obama linked the Iranian nuclear threat and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, treating them with equal importance – a clear signal that the US expects Israel to make major concessions to the Palestinians in return for “undertakings” to prevent the Iranians from obtaining a nuclear bomb.

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu must have been bitterly disappointed. He has bent over backward in efforts to please Obama. At Obama’s urging, he extended a humiliating apology to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan for the killing of the Turkish terrorists seeking to violently breach Israel’s maritime arms blockade against Gaza. Yet when Erdogan subsequently refused to fulfill his undertakings, Obama failed even to reprimand him.

Netanyahu outraged most Israelis by capitulating to extreme US pressure and releasing Palestinian terrorists, many of whom were mass murderers.

He also encouraged AIPAC to support the president in Congress on the Syrian issue – an act that backfired after Obama equivocated and then withdrew his request for congressional support.

Yet Obama disregarded all Netanyahu’s efforts and once again left him in the cold. Ignoring the asymmetry of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, he complimented both parties for “having demonstrated a willingness to take significant political risks” – explaining that Israel had released large numbers of hard-core terrorists (an act that no US government would conceivably contemplate) and bracketing this with the reciprocal Palestinian “concession”: to engage in negotiations with the Israelis! Does he really believe that Israel releasing mass murderers and the Palestinians consenting to engage in negotiations amount to equivalent political risks? When Obama glibly proclaimed that “friends of Israel, including the United States, must recognize that Israel’s security as a Jewish and democratic state depends upon the realization of a Palestinian state,” he ignored the dangers Israel would face if, as is almost certain, Palestine became a failed rogue state and served as a launching pad for terrorists and states like Iran committed to Israel’s destruction.

Nor did Obama even mention the visceral hatred and incitement to violence that continues to be promoted at all levels of PA society, making genuine peace inconceivable.

Obama’s desperate renewed “appeal” to the Iranians, pleading with them to engage in dialogue and foolishly reiterating that he did not consider regime change an objective was also profoundly disappointing.

The new Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, in stark contrast to his deranged predecessor, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has launched an extraordinary charm offensive. Cynically oozing goodwill, he has referred to the employment of nuclear weapons as a crime against humanity and sought to divert attention from the Iranian nuclear threat by demanding that Israel join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty with other “enlightened” states like Iraq, Syria and Libya.

With a forked tongue, he has conveyed reassuring messages, encouraging protracted negotiations.

It should be recalled that in 2005, while serving as national security adviser and head nuclear negotiator, Rouhani brazenly lied concerning Iran’s genuine nuclear intentions. And just prior to departing for New York, he was photographed speaking at a military parade in front of a sign that read “Israel must cease to exist.”

Nor, despite all his sweet talk, has Rouhani offered a single concession. Clearly he is eager to talk and negotiate. But unless the ayatollah decides otherwise, the centrifuges will continue spinning until Iran achieves its nuclear objective.

Meanwhile, sensitive to his master Ayatollah Ali Khamenei or a backlash from his hardline opponents in Iran, Rouhani humiliatingly spurned a pathetic US effort to orchestrate an “impromptu” handshake at the UN, stating that it would be premature. That did not deter Obama from telephoning him as he was about to leave for Iran, congratulating him on his election and praising his “constructive statements” on the nuclear issue.

The US and Europe are desperate for a face-saving situation to avoid confrontation with the Iranians.

They ignore the ultimate result of the buildup of underground nuclear facilities and ballistic missiles.

Furthermore, the bitter reality is that after Obama’s inept zigzagging in relation to Syria, his threat that the US is “determined to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear bomb” and will if necessary “use all elements of our power, including military force,” rings hollow and is unlikely to be taken seriously by the Iranians – or anyone else.

It must be deeply frustrating for Netanyahu to see the rogue state of Iran courted by the US and Europe, while Israel, a democracy and genuine ally of the US, is treated so shabbily. The chilling parallels with the betrayal of Czechoslovakia and Chamberlain’s policies of appeasement and “peace in our time” during the late 1930s will prey on our minds in the months to come.

Netanyahu will seek to pierce through Rouhani’s sweet talk at the UN. He will raise skepticism about Rouhani’s tactics and urge the world to prevent the Iranians from emulating the North Koreans, who achieved their nuclear objectives by similar means.

He will also demand full transparency and verification, should any agreement be reached with Iran. For these expressions of objective reality and bare security necessities, he will undoubtedly be depicted as a spoiler by naive and euphoric US and global leaders seeking justification for their inaction against Iran.

He will also resist pressures from the Obama administration for additional fundamental unilateral concessions to the Palestinians. But unlike his political opponents on the Right accusing him of cowardice, Netanyahu – like all Israeli leaders since the time of Ben-Gurion – realizes that Israel is dependent on a superpower and that today the support of the US both politically and militarily is crucial.

Netanyahu also recognizes that for all his failings, Obama, with the strong encouragement of Congress, continues to provide Israel with the military necessities that no other nation could provide.

Israel has a vested interest in a strong America employing its superpower status to maintain global stability. We are not obliged to behave as a vassal state. But we must act prudently. While resisting pressures to concede on matters impacting our security, we must demonstrate our appreciation of American support and be willing to make concessions on issues that Americans perceive as impacting their interests.

The next nine months will be challenging, especially if Obama retains his fixation that he can resolve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict by May 2014.

There is no basis for any realistic settlement beyond an interim arrangement. Even aside from Hamas and the extraordinary turbulence in the region, it is inconceivable that an agreement could be achieved concerning issues such as the Arab refugee right of return. If Abbas himself were willing to compromise (and he is not), he would be assassinated within a matter of days.

This is a time for our leaders, including President Shimon Peres and the Likud hawks, to stand united.

Repeated statements refuting the positions adopted by the prime minister, calling for annexation of territories or opposing a two-state solution, undermine our global position. Such behavior enables the Palestinians to distort reality and shift the blame to Israel for the inevitable breakdown that will result from their intransigency and refusal to coexist genuinely with us.

It is unconscionable that even during this turbulent period, with the upheavals in Syria and Egypt, the Obama administration blinds itself to the real barriers to peace and exploits the Iranian nuclear threat as a vehicle to pressure Israel to maintain this Alice-in-Wonderland negotiation charade. By demanding that we make further unilateral territorial concessions in the absence of ironclad security (which is currently impossible), the US is pressuring us to gamble with our lives and future.


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: netanyahu; obamaisrael

1 posted on 09/30/2013 5:31:05 AM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 09/30/2013 5:35:14 AM PDT by SJackson ( The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself. BF)
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To: SJackson

Thoughtful Israelis always knew that Israel would one day have to survive without American financial, diplomatic and military guarantees. Mr. Netanyahu behold Mr. Obama.


3 posted on 09/30/2013 5:42:47 AM PDT by allendale
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To: SJackson

Israelis I know, some military, are extremely worried about 0bama. They will tell you personally that are PO’d at the liberal Jews that overwhelmingly supported bozo. Conservative Jews have been very outspoken but are in the minority.


4 posted on 09/30/2013 5:46:52 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: rrrod

Just recently worked on a case that involved some Jewish people that voted for Obama and are anti-gun nuts that post on Facebook everytime there is a gun crime reported by the MSM. They side with him yet its obvious he wouldn’t mind it if their home country was obliterated from the face of the earth. I odn’t get them either.


5 posted on 09/30/2013 6:07:39 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SJackson
...but, but, didn't Obama say, “all options are on the table”? This was followed by a tersed jaw grimace and a “...and I MEAN it”.

Oh woe is me, woe Israel, woe the West under this man-child President...

6 posted on 09/30/2013 6:09:29 AM PDT by Netz
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To: allendale
Thoughtful Israelis in the government and in the Israel Defense Forces knew back in 2008 that it would come to this.

Netanyahu also knew and has been planning for a sobering reality, rapidly approaching - an Nuclear Iran.

Israelis overwhelmingly supported any candidate other than the “young Kenyan”. Too bad they could not vote.

Anybody with an IQ over 4 has known all along how things would play out...

7 posted on 09/30/2013 6:13:42 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz

Israel just needs to step in line behind Poland...this guy is a menace to any agreements this country had which both preceded the half black devil and were to the benefit of the US.


8 posted on 09/30/2013 6:18:19 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: rrrod; All

Obama’s phone call to the Iranian talking head is just another distraction to keep Congress from defunding Obamacare.

As usual, the 24/7 Media falls for it hook-line-and-sinker.

On the list of future distractions from defunding Obamacare are meetings with various Heads of State in DC and China.

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MAKE DC LISTEN: TELL YOUR SENATORS, ESPECIALLY THE DEMOCRATS !

State .... Senator .... Party .... Phone

AK Mark Begich D (202) 224-3004
AK Lisa Murkowski R (202) 224-6665
AL Jeff Sessions R (202) 224-4124
AL Richard C. Shelby R (202) 224-5744
AR John Boozman R (202) 224-4843
AR Mark L. Pryor D (202) 224-2353
AZ Jeff Flake R (202) 224-4521
AZ John McCain R (202) 224-2235
CA Barbara Boxer D (202) 224-3553
CA Dianne Feinstein D (202) 224-3841
CO Michael F. Bennet D (202) 224-5852
CO Mark Udall D (202) 224-5941
CT Richard Blumenthal D (202) 224-2823
CT Christopher Murphy D (202) 224-4041
DE Thomas R. Carper D (202) 224-2441
DE Christopher A. Coons D (202) 224-5042
FL Bill Nelson D (202) 224-5274
FL Marco Rubio R (202) 224-3041
GA Saxby Chambliss R (202) 224-3521
GA Johnny Isakson R (202) 224-3643
HI Mazie K. Hirono D (202) 224-6361
HI Brian Schatz D (202) 224-3934
IA Chuck Grassley R (202) 224-3744
IA Tom Harkin D (202) 224-3254
ID Mike Crapo R (202) 224-6142
ID James E. Risch R (202) 224-2752
IL Richard J. Durbin D (202) 224-2152
IL Mark Kirk R (202) 224-2854
IN Daniel Coats R (202) 224-5623
IN Joe Donnelly D (202) 224-4814
KS Jerry Moran R (202) 224-6521
KS Pat Roberts R (202) 224-4774
KY Mitch McConnell R (202) 224-2541
KY Rand Paul R (202) 224-4343
LA Mary L. Landrieu D (202) 224-5824
LA David Vitter R (202) 224-4623
MA Edward Markey D (202) 224-2742
MA Elizabeth Warren D (202) 224-4543
MD Benjamin L. Cardin D (202) 224-4524
MD Barbara A. Mikulski D (202) 224-4654
ME Susan M. Collins R (202) 224-2523
ME Angus S. King I (202) 224-5344
MI Carl Levin D (202) 224-6221
MI Debbie Stabenow D (202) 224-4822
MN Al Franken D (202) 224-5641
MN Amy Klobuchar D (202) 224-3244
MO Roy Blunt R (202) 224-5721
MO Claire McCaskill D (202) 224-6154
MS Thad Cochran R (202) 224-5054
MS Roger F. Wicker R (202) 224-6253
MT Max Baucus D (202) 224-2651
MT Jon Tester D (202) 224-2644
NC Richard Burr R (202) 224-3154
NC Kay R. Hagan D (202) 224-6342
ND Heidi Heitkamp D (202) 224-2043
ND John Hoeven R (202) 224-2551
NE Deb Fischer R (202) 224-6551
NE Mike Johanns R (202) 224-4224
NH Kelly Ayotte R (202) 224-3324
NH Jeanne Shaheen D (202) 224-2841
NJ Jeff Chiesa R (202) 224-3224
NJ Robert Menendez D (202) 224-4744
NM Martin Heinrich D (202) 224-5521
NM Tom Udall D (202) 224-6621
NV Dean Heller R (202) 224-6244
NV Harry Reid D (202) 224-3542
NY Kirsten E. Gillibrand D (202) 224-4451
NY Charles E. Schumer D (202) 224-6542
OH Sherrod Brown D (202) 224-2315
OH Rob Portman R (202) 224-3353
OK Tom Coburn R (202) 224-5754
OK James M. Inhofe R (202) 224-4721
OR Jeff Merkley D (202) 224-3753
OR Ron Wyden D (202) 224-5244
PA Robert P. Casey D (202) 224-6324
PA Patrick J. Toomey R (202) 224-4254
RI Jack Reed D (202) 224-4642
RI Sheldon Whitehouse D (202) 224-2921
SC Lindsey Graham R (202) 224-5972
SC Tim Scott R (202) 224-6121
SD Tim Johnson D (202) 224-5842
SD John Thune R (202) 224-2321
TN Lamar Alexander R (202) 224-4944
TN Bob Corker R (202) 224-3344
TX John Cornyn R (202) 224-2934
UT Orrin G. Hatch R (202) 224-5251
UT Mike Lee R (202) 224-5444
VA Tim Kaine D (202) 224-4024
VA Mark R. Warner D (202) 224-2023
VT Patrick J. Leahy D (202) 224-4242
VT Bernard Sanders I (202) 224-5141
WA Maria Cantwell D (202) 224-3441
WA Patty Murray D (202) 224-2621
WI Tammy Baldwin D (202) 224-5653
WI Ron Johnson R (202) 224-5323
WV Joe Manchin D (202) 224-3954
WV John D. Rockefeller D (202) 224-6472
WY John Barrasso R (202) 224-6441
WY Michael B. Enzi R (202) 224-3424

Now that we have your attention, you sorry US Senators, keep in mind that we will replace you with those who will gladly correct your errors - - - .

So, scrub and clean by 2014 !

Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick —————

- See more at: http://tedcruzforsenate.org/tell-your-senators-to-oppose-cloture-on-h-j-res-59/#sthash.CvqYzXvd.s4d7EOIg.dpuf
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US SENATE GOP DEAD WEIGHT LIST LOYAL TO OBAMA

Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
John Barrasso (R-WY)

John Hoeven (R-ND)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
John Boozman (R-AR)
Mike Johanns (R-NE)

Richard Burr (R-NC)
Ron Johnson (R-WI)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Jeff Chiesa (R-NJ)

John McCain (R-AZ)
Dan Coats (R-IN)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Lisa Murkowksi (R-AK)

Thad Cochran (R-MS)
John Thune (R-SD)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Bob Corker (R-TN)

Not Voting:

Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
Jeff Flake (R-AZ)

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Obama has found it very easy to advance his narrow ideological agenda of failure-prone Marxism.

4 years after Obama conned his Democrats into passing the Federal takeover of the cash cow of Medical Insurance, the PC, Doormat Republicans are finally timidly suggesting defunding that Federal takeover.

Without the weak, PC, Doormat Republicans Boehner and McConnell being stupidly kept in their respective leadership positions by truly cowardly House and Senate Members, Obama Medical Insurance “Care” Takeover would have been defunded long ago.

The primal yearning of the 47 % who pay no personal Federal Income tax is to belong to a tribe where all of their choices are dictated to them by their arrogant tribal leader.

This a common trait of those who have low self-esteem.

In that sense, Obamanation is truly a cult: low self-esteem people believing everything their cult leader tells them, no questions asked.

Freedom is defined in the dictionary as follows:
1.) Exemption or liberation from slavery or imprisonment.
3.) Liberty of choice or action.

Most of the 47 % riding in the “free” wagon seek out slavery, and lack of personal choice.

They thus feel safe, and secure in the knowledge that “this is as bad as it is going to get.”

Liberty is defined in the dictionary as follows:
1.) The state of being exempt from the domination of others or from restricting circumstances; freedom.
5.) The power of voluntary choice: freedom from necessity.
6.) Individual Liberty: Freedom from restraint in the performance of rights outside of government control.

Most people who are getting a free ride in the wagon where 47 % pay no personal Federal Income Taxes, are terrified of making a voluntary choice.

The 47 % would prefer that they be under government control where the choices are made for him.

All of this societal wussiness has made it very easy for B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, to advance his narrow ideological agenda of European-style, failure-prone, Marxism in spite of PC, Doormat Republican token “opposition.”

BTW, unlike taxes, Federal Obama ‘care’ Insurance charges can be increased EVERY YEAR to whatever % the present and future arrogant leaders of Obamanation wants.

BTW, BTW, the free-loading 47 % will always vote for the Candidate for POTUS approved by Obamanation.
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The question to be asked is: “If it is in the Nation’s best interest to shut down the Government, then why are there only TWO Federal Politicians, Obama and Reid, loudly advocating shutting down the US Federal Government?

Obama has MANY reasons to shutdown the Federal Government such as:

1.) A headline grabbing story that will distract attention from the Impeachable scandals of:

Benghazi Massacre Dereliction of Duty by Obama as CIC;
Obamacare Insurance managed by the corrupt IRS;
IRS harassment of political opponents of Obama;
Use of the NSA by Obama to spy on everybody in the USA;
etc, etc.

2.) The use of fear of a shutdown might help to protect defunding and eventual abolishment of Obama’s narrowly focused ideological agenda of an European-style, failure-prone, Marxist, monopoly of the US Medical Insurance Industry.

3.) Spreading fear and blame might also preserve Obama’s power to increase Obamacare Insurance premiums on an annual basis.

*This would be highly advantageous to Obama as the increase in mandatory insurance premiums would not be a tax, as the “unexpected market conditions” would be given as the reason for the increase.

*Also there would be no need to ask for the “Advice and Consent” of Congress, as the IRS would be in complete control of all income and medical records.

4.) The last reason is the most important for Obama, personally: America would at last no longer be a Nation where the Liberty to choose one’s own family destiny could ever exist again.

As for Reid, the best guess I have is that he wants a Government Monopoly of the Medical Insurance Industry. Well, to be fair, Reid calls for a “single payer” system.

My suspician is that multi-millionaire Reid, nearing Federal retirement, owns a lot of stock in some companies that are tied to a “single payer” system.

Maybe the NSA, or the IRS can find out for us?

I’m going to ask my US Senator from TEXAS, The Esteemed Senator John “To Hell with my voters” Cornyn to check on this for me - - - .


9 posted on 09/30/2013 6:37:12 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: SJackson

netanyahu was a complete yahoo for trusting obama at all. obama likes egging people into things. Netanyahu should have ignored him


10 posted on 09/30/2013 6:40:01 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: allendale
The article is about "Linkage". Are there problems in the Mideast that can be solved only after the Israeli-Palestinian problem has been solved?

Obviously the Likudniks and the NeoCons say no. I don't think anyone is keeping score, but I was always under the impression that most people in foreign policy circles say yes.

11 posted on 09/30/2013 8:21:23 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: SJackson

Israel AND America are fools to trust anyone who changed his name to Hussein.

Sorry McCain, it is NOT offensive to mention a name that someone has changed to.

His name says it all.


12 posted on 09/30/2013 10:54:41 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks SJackson.
One might have hoped that Obama’s calamitous mishandling of recent Middle East crises, climaxing with his disastrous response to the Syrian use of chemical weapons, would have taught him a few lessons on regional politics.
Huh? His plays are called in from the sidelines.


13 posted on 09/30/2013 5:01:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Yehuda
koranus----marx worshippers---jew-hating morons

You left out the self loathing or self hating jews

16 posted on 10/02/2013 9:12:09 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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