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DA won’t charge bike assault thugs
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Posted on 10/02/2013 10:51:12 AM PDT by Blue Turtle

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To: dennisw

“Ridiculous!! Chinese guy is out of the hospital after just an hour or two to treat superficial “injuries”. No broken bones even!!!”

So? What does that matter? He was injured and his property
was damaged. Not to mention the trauma his family went through
at the hand of the punks.
You know that dumbass biker didn’t have to participate in
the harassment and gang around the innocent Chinese family
who were minding their own business. It was his fault and
he needs to suffer the most.


101 posted on 10/02/2013 12:41:29 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: TexasGator

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=319_1380522846

Check out the above video from the beginning. Did the bike riders box in the SUV? On the highway?
Yes
Did they toy with it a bit?
yes
Were they wailing on it and damaging it?
No

Then the Chinese driver panics, steps on the gas running over bikes and one riders legs


102 posted on 10/02/2013 12:44:43 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Blue Turtle

Manhattan DA Cy Vance. A coward like his father?


103 posted on 10/02/2013 12:45:40 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: dennisw

“Were they wailing on it and damaging it?
No”

Apparently your eyes are not good enough to see the biker at the SUV driver’s door ...


104 posted on 10/02/2013 12:48:11 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: dennisw
What I see is vibrant exuberant Hispanics out having a good time and Chinese guy does not know how to take this in.

You probably think that Trayvon Martin was just out having a good time, and George Zimmerman just didn't know how to take that in.

105 posted on 10/02/2013 12:48:24 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: TexasGator

STOLEN TAGS. That’s the key to prosecuting members of this group. Now, that is if Bloomturd and Bagger Vance (DA) have the guts to follow up, but knowing New York, NAAHHHH!


106 posted on 10/02/2013 12:48:33 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: dennisw

“You’re crapping your pants (steaming load) just from reading this thread.”

How do you know? You been sticking your nose where it
don’t belong again? I bet you wear mom pants just like
an Obama. Just kidding. But to make the point, if this
is how easily you come unglued on a blog thread, I cant
see you holding it together in a situation like the one
the “Chinese guy” went through.
Just sayin. You would have got your ass kicked too and
probably worse.


107 posted on 10/02/2013 12:49:14 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: Fresh Wind

“You probably think that Trayvon Martin was just out having a good time, and George Zimmerman just didn’t know how to take that in.”

Yeah its obvious George panicked and probably would have been out of the hospital in one or two hours. /sarcasm


108 posted on 10/02/2013 12:52:45 PM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: TexasGator
Apparently your eyes are not good enough to see the biker at the SUV driver’s door ..

And what pray tell did he do, Einstein? What kind of damage and injuries did he cause?

109 posted on 10/02/2013 12:53:53 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Blue Turtle
Ofter here on FR when some thug dies or gets hurt do something illegal someone will tag the thug as an “aspiring rapper” as a kind of joke....well this time guess what...he really was an aspiring rapper....and a thug who got hurt doing something illegal.
110 posted on 10/02/2013 12:54:00 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: Blue Turtle

The entire biker gang should be rounded up and hanged. Each one, as a willing participant of the gang activity, is guilty of every crime, up to and including attempted murder of the driver and his family, that was committed by each and every member of the gang.


111 posted on 10/02/2013 12:54:25 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: dennisw

I was in a similar situation when I was 4-yrs-old. My parents, me, and my brother were traveling on a highway, going home after a day of shopping. As we were driving down the highway, a truck in front of us slammed on his brakes so hard that my brother and I almost flew over the back seat (days before there were seat belts). My dad changed lanes and the truck swerved in front of us. To make a long story short, he started playing chicken with us. My dad was finally able to get around him and as we passed him, his equally crazy passenger (a woman) pointed a shotgun out the window at us. My mom put my brother and myself on the floorboard. He followed us all the way to the nearest police station and my dad just honked the horn as loud as he could and when the police came out, they pulled the drunk guy out and arrested him. Let me tell you; I’m 55 yrs old and will NEVER forget the terror of that incident. My dad was no cry-baby (ex-paratrooper); and both of my parents were extremely shaken. When you find yourself in that kind of awful situation, it’s very hard to keep a clear mind as to what to do.


112 posted on 10/02/2013 12:54:47 PM PDT by medtransemr01
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To: oldenuff2no

The media at every level has gotten this story so sideways and half assed that most of the comments here aren’t related to anything. The event started when the SUV guy tail-gated and then rammed a first biker, injuring him. The remaining bikers surrounded the SUV and forced it to the curb. At least one of the bikes was parked in front of the SUV with its rider off starting to talk to the driver. The SUV driver, who appears to be oriental by the way and maybe out of his water, gunned the SUV runing over the off-bike guy and the parked bike. The remaining bikers chased him down and forced him to stop in town traffic. The windo-breaking didn’t start until the driver refused to get out and talk. The second biker who got hurt is in really tough shape, having gotten completely run over.

It’s worth noting that these bikes weren’t HOGS, just street bikes more or less medium sized, with none of the riders dressed in leathers, etc. They were not a tattooed-up bunch of hells angels types and shouldn’t have struck fear in the heart of a dumbass SUV pilot. Note also that the SUV was in the center of three lanes when he rammed the first bike. If he was in a hurry all he had to do was shift to the left lane. I nominate the SUV genius as dumbass of the year.


113 posted on 10/02/2013 12:55:51 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1
The event started when the SUV guy tail-gated and then rammed a first biker, injuring him.

B******t. The biker deliberately cut in front of the SUV and brake checked him.

114 posted on 10/02/2013 1:00:28 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: cherokee1

“The media at every level has gotten this story so sideways and half assed that most of the comments here aren’t related to anything. The event started when the SUV guy tail-gated and then rammed a first biker, injuring him. “

Except that there is a video. Did you watch the video which shows the biker harassing and brake-checking the SUV?


115 posted on 10/02/2013 1:00:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

You need to look again. Your description of events comes from halfassed media explanations by people who are not good at geometry, bikes, cars, or anything else. For instance how and who on a bike would try to cut off a full-sized SUV? The SUV REAR-ENDED the first bike.


116 posted on 10/02/2013 1:00:57 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1

” If he was in a hurry all he had to do was shift to the left lane.”

Uh, there was a bike to his left in that lane. Plus numerous bikes speeding and passing making it unsafe to switch lanes.


117 posted on 10/02/2013 1:03:52 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: cherokee1
The media at every level has gotten this story so sideways and half assed that most of the comments here aren’t related to anything. The event started when the SUV guy tail-gated and then rammed a first biker, injuring him. The remaining bikers surrounded the SUV and forced it to the curb. At least one of the bikes was parked in front of the SUV with its rider off starting to talk to the driver. The SUV driver, who appears to be oriental by the way and maybe out of his water, gunned the SUV runing over the off-bike guy and the parked bike. The remaining bikers chased him down and forced him to stop in town traffic. The windo-breaking didn’t start until the driver refused to get out and talk. The second biker who got hurt is in really tough shape, having gotten completely run over.

It’s worth noting that these bikes weren’t HOGS, just street bikes more or less medium sized, with none of the riders dressed in leathers, etc. They were not a tattooed-up bunch of hells angels types and shouldn’t have struck fear in the heart of a dumbass SUV pilot. Note also that the SUV was in the center of three lanes when he rammed the first bike. If he was in a hurry all he had to do was shift to the left lane. I nominate the SUV genius as dumbass of the year.
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Should I believe you or my own lying eyes? The video clearly shows the guy on the bike brake checking the boxed in diver causing the accident. The video clearly shows bikers running up to the SUV and breaking the window..no waiting for anyone to get out. And not that it matters but the injured guy's facebook page shows him laying in the hospital bed and the tats up and down his arm are plain to see.

I think the only facts you got right was that there was an SUV and a bunch of motorcycles.

118 posted on 10/02/2013 1:03:56 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: cherokee1

“For instance how and who on a bike would try to cut off a full-sized SUV? “

It’s called brake-checking. A well know illegal maneuver by bikers and street racers. A few years back a Harley rider decided to brake-check a motorhome. He lost his life. Motorhome driver was not charged.


119 posted on 10/02/2013 1:06:01 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: dennisw

Chinese driver did panic and greatly injure one rider, mangling his legs. this is what set things off.

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No, you are wrong.

The dipshit biker who slowed down intentionally in front of the the SUV driver, got hit as a result of his stupid ass move and got his leg broken in the process set this off.

No sympathy for the bikers at all. None. Zero. Zilch.


120 posted on 10/02/2013 1:15:52 PM PDT by dmz
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To: cherokee1

“The event started when the SUV guy tail-gated and then rammed a first biker,” Wrong.

“The remaining bikers surrounded the SUV and forced it to the curb.” Not their job.

“At least one of the bikes was parked in front of the SUV with its rider off starting to talk to the driver.”
More like screaming at the driver.

“The remaining bikers chased him down and forced him to stop in town traffic.” Not their job again.

“The windo-breaking didn’t start until the driver refused to get out and talk.” He didn’t have to get out and talk
to anyone but the cops.

“The second biker who got hurt is in really tough shape, having gotten completely run over.” Good.

“It’s worth noting that these bikes weren’t HOGS, just street bikes more or less medium sized, with none of the riders dressed in leathers, etc. They were not a tattooed-up bunch of hells angels types and shouldn’t have struck fear in the heart of a dumbass SUV pilot” Doesn’t matter and your just typing.

“Note also that the SUV was in the center of three lanes when he rammed the first bike.” Where else could he go he
was surrounded by bikers.

“If he was in a hurry all he had to do was shift to the left lane.” Why should he, he had every right to drive right over the punks.

“I nominate the SUV genius as dumbass of the year.”
I don’t think he would want to join your club.


121 posted on 10/02/2013 1:15:53 PM PDT by Slambat
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To: Mears

“Why the hell are we all obeying the law?”

Sorry, in America you’re only allowed to flout the law if you’re Black or Hispanic - a card-carrying member of Holder’s People.


122 posted on 10/02/2013 1:21:38 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Cribb

Guess you didn’t see the clip where he drove over a biker - which precipitated the other bikers chasing him down.

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Guess you didnt see the clip where the asshole biker slowed down right in front on the SUV driver, causing the biker to get clipped and get his leg broken, which happened before the running over of the other idiot biker.


123 posted on 10/02/2013 1:28:11 PM PDT by dmz
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To: sitetest
The entire biker gang should be rounded up and hanged. Each one, as a willing participant of the gang activity, is guilty of every crime, up to and including attempted murder of the driver and his family, that was committed by each and every member of the gang.

I second your statements.

These thugs are evil criminals. I viewed the various liveleak videos. It gives total support to your statement.

They all deserve a public hanging in front of their families -- true justice for these cretins.

124 posted on 10/02/2013 1:30:07 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Cribb

You mean when they were trying to illegally stop traffic and menace the SUV driver?

They got off lucky....I would have taken a bunch of em out...

I ride....but these ghetto thugs just go out and sow mahem doing wheelies and acting like assholes....the cops had already stopped them from going downtown previous to the SUV incident.


125 posted on 10/02/2013 1:45:52 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: cherokee1
The media at every level has gotten this story so sideways and half assed that most of the comments here aren't related to anything.

No you have it wrong.

You totally forgot about the part of the bikers kicking his vehicle and slashing his tires when he first stopped after the biker cut him off and slammed on his brakes and got bumped. That is clearly on the vids. At that point in this incident it was a minor traffic incident and no one was injured. The bikers chose to expand it into a violent confrontation.

You completely ignored that fact that they had no legal right to pursue him riding in the oncoming lanes of traffic, on the sidewalks, on unlicensed bikes and quads, and then surround him and stop him. This is also on the vids. Then you continue to stray from the truth in implying that somehow this moron had a right to shatter his side window, endangering his wife and small child, then rip him out of his vehicle and beat him. When that happened the SUV driver was caught in traffic and could not escape but the biker took it upon himself to be judge, jury, cop, and the giver of punishment. Wrong, totally, completely, absolutely, and not lawful.

If It had been me, at least the guy swinging the helmet guy would have suffered a double tap to the center of mass when he attacked me with his helmet. When you watch the vid there can be no doubt that the biker was using it as a weapon with the intent to cause bodily harm.

126 posted on 10/02/2013 1:53:22 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no

In the free parts of America an armed response would have been easily justifiable. Unfortunately, this businessman and his family live in NY.


127 posted on 10/02/2013 2:08:35 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

“In the free parts of America an armed response would have been easily justifiable. Unfortunately, this businessman and his family live in NY.”

At least (so far) the DA considers his use of a SUV as a weapon was justified.


128 posted on 10/02/2013 2:15:41 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: CodeJockey

I am pretty sure that those were all violations of NY laws.


129 posted on 10/02/2013 2:17:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Blue Turtle

The bikers are politically connected.


130 posted on 10/02/2013 2:20:02 PM PDT by sport
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To: dennisw
But some of the plates turned out to be stolen or belong to different bikes, making it tougher to ID the motorcyclists.

Sounds like honest, hard working citizens out riding their bikes and things got just a bit out of hand in the confusion.

131 posted on 10/02/2013 2:24:20 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: South40
According as to who you happen to be and whose vehicle and occupants you attack. The good part for you is that if you happen to be one of the approved vehicle attackers, Should said vehicle's occupants have the gall to defend themselves, the full force of the law will descend upon them.

It is my opinion, that both sides know who they are and if one side values their life and health, they will stay the hell out of NYC.

132 posted on 10/02/2013 2:26:40 PM PDT by sport
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To: TexasGator

One has to ask where the cops were.

This is anarchy in the streets.


133 posted on 10/02/2013 2:36:09 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: sport

As we learned with the Trayvon Martin case, defending yourself is not a politically correct action these days. And there is a large faction of both civilians and elected officials who are working tirelessly to strip us of our rights to do so.


134 posted on 10/02/2013 2:40:30 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: dennisw

Dennis,

Pause for a moment. You don’t find it odd that a biker, who appeared to be looking into the window of the SUV just prior, deliberately pulls in front of it to stop it?

Then 50 bikers stop and park, surrounding the SUV after it it forced to stop? What 3 lane highway allows parking in a lane? Did you notice the white van that had to drive onto the curb to get around the bikers?

If somebody opened my back door I’d think kidnapping or worse. The driver, Asian or not, did what made the most sense at that very moment. It’s terrible that someone is now in an induced coma, but why did he stop and park in front of the SUV in the first place?

Mal intent from the start.


135 posted on 10/02/2013 2:47:33 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: dmz

“The dipshit biker who slowed down intentionally in front of the the SUV driver, got hit as a result of his stupid ass move and got his leg broken in the process set this off.”

His name is Christopher Cruz and he did not get his leg broken. From the internet——

On Tuesday, police arrested the biker they say who was involved in the initial accident. Christopher Cruz, of Passaic, N.J., was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child and menacing. Cruz, who was uninjured, was in custody awaiting arraignment Tuesday and hadn’t been assigned a lawyer.


136 posted on 10/02/2013 2:50:53 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 1010RD

You wish you were young and out having fun like these free spirits


137 posted on 10/02/2013 2:52:23 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Blue Turtle

Maybe this community can solve this problem without the DA.


138 posted on 10/02/2013 2:52:27 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: wideawake

Good recap

Well done

I agree ....Dont faint


139 posted on 10/02/2013 2:56:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: TexasGator
The other half had stolen or misappropriated tags.
This same tactic has been used by the mob when they carried out a "hit".
140 posted on 10/02/2013 2:57:53 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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Apparently the cops knew where NOT to go ...
I wonder if the SUV driver, instead of getting off at 178 st and getting stuck in traffic, high-tailed it across the Washington Bridge, maybe the Pt Authority cops and NJ state troopers could've intervened?
141 posted on 10/02/2013 3:03:17 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: dennisw

“You wish you were young and out having fun like these free spirits”

I had fun on motorcycles when I was young but I never white-lined the opposing traffic lanes.


142 posted on 10/02/2013 3:04:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: dennisw
This kid is also listed as aspiring rapper...I kid you not. He is black Hispanic unlike George Zimmerman,
And his dad is a preacher. Nice.
143 posted on 10/02/2013 3:04:47 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

I always heard preachers’ kids are the worst.


144 posted on 10/02/2013 3:08:46 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind
I always heard preachers’ kids are the worst
Yes as immortalized by the late great Dusty Springfield. Seriously, this incident goes way beyond young love.
145 posted on 10/02/2013 3:11:57 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

“I wonder if the SUV driver, instead of getting off at 178 st and getting stuck in traffic, high-tailed it across the Washington Bridge, maybe the Pt Authority cops and NJ state troopers could’ve intervened?”

Not that familiar with the area but looking at the video it shows that he was stopped just before the bridge exit and in getting away after that attack went to the center lane avoiding a bike blocking the exit.


146 posted on 10/02/2013 3:12:10 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

They were also driving down the break down lanes.


147 posted on 10/02/2013 3:14:17 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Impala64ssa

The aspiring rapper:
Edwin E. Mieses, 26, of 17 Bernard Ave., Nov. 28, charged with operating a motor vehicle after license was revoked, illegal possession of a Class D narcotic, operating a motor vehicle with defective equipment and on five outstanding warrants;
Arrested Again in May, Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.
In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show.”


148 posted on 10/02/2013 3:20:44 PM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: dennisw

“They were also driving down the break down lanes.”

Yes. I mentioned that to you in my #20.


149 posted on 10/02/2013 3:35:02 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: crusadersoldier

“The aspiring rapper:
Edwin E. Mieses, 26, of 17 Bernard Ave., Nov. 28, charged with operating a motor vehicle after license was revoked, illegal possession of a Class D narcotic, operating a motor vehicle with defective equipment and on five outstanding warrants;
Arrested Again in May, Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.
In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show.”

But this was NY and he was turning his life around.


150 posted on 10/02/2013 3:36:25 PM PDT by TexasGator
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