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To: MrB

“Before the Nazis came to power, they were using thugs on the streets too.”

They came to power because those thugs were the “law & order” that was lacking in Weimar Germany; the country was faced with a communist uprising, and chose the socialists instead. The Nazis rise to power has to be seen through the prism of the rise of communism in western Europe through the 1920s and 30s; when people felt the very right to private property was about to be outlawed, they were quite willing to support anyone who would oppose the communists. The communists themselves represented the most useless, unproductive, and envious citizens, which is why they lost in Germany, Italy, Spain, and Portugal.


40 posted on 10/04/2013 11:10:52 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2; MrB
There wasn't a nickel's difference between the Communists and the Nazis.

From my FR profile page, a nice passage by an educated contemporaneous observer of the time:

Although our modern socialists' promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under "communism" and "fascism." As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939, "the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany."

No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.

-- F.A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom

Of course, "the liberal of the old type" that Hayek refers to, we would refer to as a conservative. In the U.S., "liberal" has been bastardized and co-opted by our socialists who have run from accurate nomenclature regarding their political philosophy.

41 posted on 10/04/2013 12:12:35 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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