[EagleUSA]

Just another scam. Just look at what has happened to the price of corn....any questions??

[bert]

ethanol is for drinking

[Uncle Chip]

It’s a scam to pour money into the coffers of agribusiness and from there to politicians.

The people pay for it with higher prices as the government forces them to burn their grain rather than letting them and their livestock eat it.

[theBuckwheat]

It is dangerous to food supplies to mandate burning grain as motor vehicle fuel instead of burning something that cannot be food. At the very least, the law should be amended to allow suspending the mandate when the value of grain as a fuel becomes so far out of sync with its value as a food.

[SES1066]

Here in Gulf Coast Florida we are being plagued by a smarmy TV Ad, “Mr Slick and Dummy” done by “Growth Energy”, a pro-ethanol trade group. As to expected from an advocacy ad, it is totally one-sided but when the intelligent consumer knows the background, it is even more icky than usual. Worse it gets the stamp of approval from many eco groups who should know better.

[davisfh]

I have an '02 Toyota whose "check engine" lights if I use gasoline with ethanol. Once the light comes on, it takes many tanks of non-ethanol gasoline to turn it off. My daughter has an '07 Lincoln SUV that behaves the same way. Fortunately, there is a goodly supply of non-ethanol gas locally.

In my opinion, this love of ethanol is somewhat akin to a belief in ghosts.

[Jack Hydrazine]

It pollutes more, has less energy than gasoline thus lowering mpg, and ups the cost of gasoline at the pump.

Here’s a great website that lists ethanol-free gasoline stations.
http://pure-gas.org/

[John S Mosby]

Ethanol does not burn clean at all. But it is made from Corn=— key element of the politics.... food, commodities, corn lobby and bioengineering (monsanto/bayer).

Methanol (wood alcohol, made from anything with cellulose) burns clean.. does not have these effects on engines (dragsters use it btw) and can be made by ANYONE with knowledge. The idea of grass clippings, wood chips etc.

Ethanol lobby, corn lobby, using petro fertilizers and massive amounts of what could be drinking water to make— a fuel dilutent that does not burn clean to our air— what sheer idiocy.

Make methanol at home, buy 100% gasoline and dilute it yourself. Ethanol is and was a scam— massive BS.

[muir_redwoods]

In a world where babies still starve, using food for fuel, in a nation that has as much coal and natural gas as we have, is obscene.

[pennyfarmer]

One one hand we hear how we can not sustain increase in population then we make laws that require us to burn our food. Who does that??? Crazy liberals, thats who.

The whole story sounds like a inflated analogy for something bad. This is like its own absurd analogy. You can’t come up with a more crazy comparison.

[Sequoyah101]

Junk science = Junk solutions = Junk fuel and excuse to pad the pockets of a whole lot of people.

The farm belt has had an energy boom for the last decade. It has been wonderful and a resurrection of the last failed ethanol initiative.

Lots of companies and people prosper... I don’t mind earned prosperity but this is all artificial and comes on the backs of taxpayers and consumers. It is nothing but a convenient gift to agriculture.

Farmers have become rich. Farmers who did OK have hit the jackpot at the expense of many others

Farm equipment manufacturers have done very well and prices for equipment are outrageous.

ADM and Cargill have made a fortune

Farm land prices have exploded

Food costs have exploded

The land is being raped by corn... to get these yields is not much more than hydroponics

The runoff is laced with nitrates and chemicals... how much pollution has been prevented... none. I venture to say the result is a net gain in pollution.

[OldNavyVet]

The Los Angeles SMOG problem was horrendous before additives like ethanol were added to that area's gasoline.

Check it out at http://green.autoblog.com/2012/08/22/la-smog-has-less-of-a-chokehold-than-years-ago-noaa-study-says/

[mountainlion]

I doubt that many farmers are making much of this $B boondoggle. One sideline is that auto parts makers are selling more fuel pumps and carburetor parts because of the damage done by alcohol. The diaphragm in my atv only lasts a few months with this solvent in the gas. I found that I can repair it with a made in china mechanics glove which beats the $100 parts replacement. The first time I put 4% alcohol in my old truck I had to replace my fuel pump.

[Minutemen]

(Fears of petroleum)"Many are rooted in anti-hydrocarbon worldviews".

Won't the Carbon Idiots have a fit when they discover that alcohol IS a hydrocarbon?