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Some Parts of Government Should Be Shut Down Forever
Townhall.com ^ | October 8, 2013 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 10/08/2013 11:55:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

I realize we’re in the middle of a government shutdown and there’s a debt limit deadline rapidly approaching, but I’m not going to write about fiscal policy today.

Instead, I’m going to share a story about evil and stupid government policy. I guess you could say this is part of my why-decent-people-should-be-libertarian series. Previous editions – all of which highlight examples of innocent people having their lives turned upside down by the state – include these horror stories.

Now watch this powerful video from the Institute for Justice and see whether it’s also an example of heartless and oppressive government.

Feds Raid Family Grocery Store's Checking Account Over Innocent Bank Deposits

The answer – if you believe in fairness, decency, and the rule of law – is that this definitely belongs on that list. What the federal government has done to the Dehko family is utterly despicable and a horrifying episode of thievery.

Just as other examples of bureaucratic theft should get us upset.

In the case of the Dehko family, they got in trouble (notwithstanding the fact that they did nothing wrong) because of so-called anti-money laundering laws.

These laws were instituted beginning about 30 years ago based on the theory that we could lower crime rates by making it more difficult for crooks to utilize the financial system.

There’s nothing wrong with that approach, at least in theory. But as I explain in this video, these laws have become very expensive and intrusive, yet they’ve had no measurable impact on crime rates.

The Failure of Anti-Money Laundering Laws

As you might expect, politicians and bureaucrats have decided to double down on failure and they’re making anti-money laundering laws more onerous, imposing ever-higher costs in hopes of having some sort of positive impact. This is bad for banks, bad for the poor, and bad for the economy.

So we’ll see more people victimized, like the Dehko family.

Which brings us back to the beginning of this piece. At what point do well-meaning people connect the dots and conclude that government is a danger to liberty?

And when you draw this obvious conclusion, isn’t it time to become a libertarian?

This doesn’t mean you have to be a pot-smoking, Rand-quoting stereotype. Instead, it simply means that you have a healthy distrust of unlimited state power and you think individuals should have both the freedom and responsibility to manage their own lives.

To see where you stand, here are a couple of quizzes.

A just-for-the-fun-of-it quiz I put together involving pot, police cars, and a tractor.

A thorough quiz on libertarian purity.

Last but not least, if you decide to be a libertarian, I hope you can figure out how to make our cause more popular.


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1 posted on 10/08/2013 11:55:14 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Shut it all down forever.

All the federal government should be involved in is Military, border control and other international issues.

The states and local gov can take care of a few of other functions like courts ,police. and that's about it.

2 posted on 10/08/2013 11:57:29 AM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: Kaslin
I can offhand think of several Federal Public Servants that NEED to be SHUTDOWN forever....

I shall leave the list up to the imagination of others..


3 posted on 10/08/2013 11:57:59 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: rurgan
from YOUR LIPS to God's Ear!! and AMEN




4 posted on 10/08/2013 11:58:56 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: MeshugeMikey

The states need to take over this out of control fed.


5 posted on 10/08/2013 11:59:55 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Kaslin
Shut it all down forever.

All the federal government should be involved in is Military, border control and other international issues.

The states and local gov can take care of a few of other functions like courts ,police. and that's about it.

The private sector( capitalism) or private businesses can do practically everything including roads, hospitals , schools etc.

6 posted on 10/08/2013 12:00:07 PM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: MeshugeMikey

thanks . I wish the rest of Americans would see that government is not needed. I know the democrats love and trust government


7 posted on 10/08/2013 12:01:35 PM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: rurgan

how much more of this SURREAL Shutdown fallout we can TOLERATE I dont know.

a crisis can go EITHER WAY....from what I understand..

may THIS ONE educate those who trust the government


8 posted on 10/08/2013 12:07:13 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: MeshugeMikey
thanks . I think this should have been added to the Constitution. what do you think? :

“All the federal government should be involved in is Military, border control and other international issues. Under no circumstances shall Congress nor any other branch of the federal government write laws or implement policies that deal with anything other than Military, border control, and international issues. that is no laws nor policies regulating nor affecting in any way anything domestically. that means no welfare, no disaster assistance, no nothing.

The states and local gov can take care of a few of other functions like courts ,police. and that's about it. “

9 posted on 10/08/2013 12:08:46 PM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: Kaslin

Fat chance.

The government gravy train is only going to get fatter and richer at the expense of those few any longer who actually work for a living.


10 posted on 10/08/2013 12:11:03 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Kaslin
Commerce, Education and the third agency of government that I would do away with ....
11 posted on 10/08/2013 12:12:16 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: rurgan
The idea that the federal gubment isnt Mommy.. Daddy and Unca Sam is so foreign to the average American.



12 posted on 10/08/2013 12:12:57 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: rurgan

I dont think that most Americans even realize how much money gets LOST...between Payment...and Payback


13 posted on 10/08/2013 12:24:00 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: rurgan
"The states and local gov can take care of a few of other functions like courts ,police."

Or a lot of other functions. General police powers are pretty broad.

14 posted on 10/08/2013 12:26:51 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: rurgan

But if we did that then the country wouldn’t be one-size-fits-all. You would wind up with different rules in Texas than Virginia. Can’t have that!


15 posted on 10/08/2013 12:31:46 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: rurgan
The states and local gov can take care of a few of other functions like courts ,police. and that's about it.

It'll never happen peacefully, because the states are addicted to the drug of Federal monies.

16 posted on 10/08/2013 12:41:50 PM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Kaslin

Simple, just go back to the 18 enumerated powers of congress. Do away w everything else.


17 posted on 10/08/2013 12:55:39 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: rurgan

can we look at it from the other direction? start with a tabula rasa and figure out which depts we need to create. other than DoD and a Holder-free DoJ do we need anything else? let the canadians have the U.N. and get those One World government types out of this country


18 posted on 10/08/2013 12:59:23 PM PDT by stonewall_jackson215
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To: DownInFlames
Simple, just go back to the 18 enumerated powers of congress. Do away w everything else.

And to do that, just get rid of the 14th Amendment.

The 14A is the lynchpin. ALL FedGov abuses come from it, because its very purpose was to reverse the relationship of the government to the people.

Before the 14A, the people had rights. After the 14A, persons and individuals had privileges.

That's technical legal-speak for enslavement.

Which is why, of course, the 14A was written to sound like it frees everyone.

19 posted on 10/08/2013 1:58:14 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Kaslin

come now,
abolish the bureau of indian affairs?
the horror.


20 posted on 10/08/2013 2:34:06 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Kaslin

Most parts of government should be shut down forever.


21 posted on 10/08/2013 2:45:19 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Kaslin
EPA should never be opened again!

They do so much more damage than good.

Start a new agency with maybe six people in it to make sure that chemicals aren't dumped into the drinking water and let the states look after things.

The EPA has publicly shown itself to be entirely loony when they started promoting the AGW consensus designed to usher in heavy duty Socialism that makes Obamacare look like pocket change.

22 posted on 10/08/2013 3:42:25 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: rurgan

Once upon a time the federal regulation of commerce was preferred to the taxes that had to be paid each time goods crossed state boundaries.

That was one of the largest benefits of the Constitution.

My Adams math book (used in the early years of the country) taught how to convert New York Money to Virginia Money, to the new Federal Money. Of course the federal government only had the authority to coin money, not to print it.


23 posted on 10/08/2013 4:41:59 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: Talisker

The US citizen has priveledges and immunities, both before and after the 14th Amendment.

Before the 14th Amendment, states could deprive their own citizens of P or I, but not citizens of other states.

After the 14th Amendment, states were not permitted to deprive their own citizens of P an I.


24 posted on 10/08/2013 4:44:42 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: donmeaker
The US citizen has priveledges and immunities, both before and after the 14th Amendment. Before the 14th Amendment, states could deprive their own citizens of P or I, but not citizens of other states. After the 14th Amendment, states were not permitted to deprive their own citizens of P an I.

The 14th created incorporated states that are agencies of the federal government. They are separate from the actual non-14th States. To see the difference, check out any property tax laws in any state - they all will declare that the property subject to taxation occupies the "exterior limits of the state" - i.e. the federal corporate agency with the same name as the state itself.

Well, almost the same name. "The State of" means "the Federal agency with the corporate name of." Thus, for example, you have the original and still existant "California Republic" and you also have the 14th Amendment federal agency called "The State of California."

And, of course, in the original State, the non-corporate status, and thus inherent rights, of the people are guaranteed as acknowledged by that State by the Constitution. While in "The State of," they are not.

25 posted on 10/09/2013 3:09:04 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

There are no words in the 14th Amendment that incorporates states. Rather, there are words which limit the previously unrestricted authority of the states to deny priviledges and immunities.

The presumtion of incorporation of new states, based on the putative use of ‘magic words’ or ‘fringe on the flag’ is a sign of excessive adherence to the debunked arguments of tax protestors. Bovine Excretement! Don’t get it on you.


26 posted on 10/09/2013 4:53:33 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: donmeaker
There are no words in the 14th Amendment that incorporates states. Rather, there are words which limit the previously unrestricted authority of the states to deny priviledges and immunities.

The presumtion of incorporation of new states, based on the putative use of ‘magic words’ or ‘fringe on the flag’ is a sign of excessive adherence to the debunked arguments of tax protestors. Bovine Excretement! Don’t get it on you.

What the 14th did was set up usages for the concept of the "people" which contradicted the Constitution up to that time. This was a deliberate act to hide the purpose of the Amendment. It was left to the SCOTUS to acknowledge the contradiction and resolve it. As two different definitions cannot exist for the same term or phrase or concept in law, they either had to throw out the 14th, or find another application for it. That application was the corporate person. If you want to learn more, start by reading up on the Slaughterhouse Cases.

Your rejection of the fact of the corporate jurisdiction of administrative statutory law is common, but incorrect.

But your hostility towards the concept is soul food for the Democrats.

27 posted on 10/09/2013 6:03:04 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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