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Is the name 'Redskins' offensive? Depends who you ask
Times Herald Record ^ | 10/7/13 | Jesse Washington

Posted on 10/08/2013 11:09:17 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Edited on 10/09/2013 5:30:58 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The name of a certain pro football team in Washington, D.C., has inspired protests, hearings, editorials, lawsuits, letters from Congress, even a presidential nudge. Yet behind the headlines, it's unclear how many Native Americans think "Redskins" is a racial slur.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nfl; pcness; redskins
FTA:" Indian support for the name "is really a classic case of internalized oppression,"( Suzan Shown) Harjo said. "People taking on what has been said about them, how they have been described, to such an extent that they don't even notice.""
So this Harjo character is a regular Kreskin the mind reader? Another Jean Dixon? If she's such a psychic, maybe she can tell me the numbers that'll come up on the next Powerball drawing and I'll split my share of the winnings 60/40 in her favor. OK, 70/30, would that work?
1 posted on 10/08/2013 11:09:17 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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Let’s purify and forget everything that occurred prior to the advent of the Obama regime since references to US history no longer has any value.


2 posted on 10/08/2013 11:13:41 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Impala64ssa

They need to ask the permanently outraged. Then they’ll get the answer they want.


3 posted on 10/08/2013 11:15:14 PM PDT by marron
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To: Gene Eric

Hail to the Wimps, Hail to our team
hail to the Wimps, Fight for old D.C.
Perfect.


4 posted on 10/08/2013 11:28:13 PM PDT by Semperfiwife (Mama always said, stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Ug


5 posted on 10/08/2013 11:36:19 PM PDT by llevrok (Democrats are LAW-LESS because the GOP is Ball-Less)
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To: Impala64ssa
Imagine a cheer leading team chanting:

“GO - People of a particular reddish-brown (no offense) color associated with native and indigenous peoples who inhabited North America before the White man decimated him Seminoles, Go!

When a US President has to speak about PC football team names then we are in big trouble, big trouble.

Does this mean we have to drop the following names and change them to:

Atlanta Braves - Atlanta very strong somewhat warrior native Americans?

Pittsburgh Pirates - Pittsburgh ones of underprivileged status therefore requiring the temporary suspension of maritime law in order to remove goods from wealthy Capitalist shipping firms, just so the can eat.

Cleveland Indians - Cleveland native tribes people who inhabited the Ohio river valley until the white man killed him.

How stupid can you be? Have the Indian peoples asked for this change or is it being dictated from the WH?

6 posted on 10/08/2013 11:38:51 PM PDT by Netz
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To: Impala64ssa

The Left lives by manipulating anger and guilt. So they go about probing, stirring a little anger here, a little guilt there, just seeing what works. If they get a little anger, they offer themselves as the solution. If they manage to stir a little guilt, then they offer themselves as absolution.

If it isn’t one thing, it will be another. It never helps to give in to them because they must, must, keep probing, keep agitating, keep accusing. How else are they going to harness the unhappy and disarm the guilt-ridden masses?


7 posted on 10/08/2013 11:49:50 PM PDT by marron
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To: All

Surprised that the pResident isn’t more hostile to the name Patriots. After all, it excludes him.


8 posted on 10/09/2013 12:11:25 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (It wasn't this cold before global warming)
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To: Impala64ssa

Potato farmers everywhere are OK with the name.


9 posted on 10/09/2013 12:26:25 AM PDT by twister881
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To: Impala64ssa

Call them the Yellow Bellies.


10 posted on 10/09/2013 12:27:17 AM PDT by mindburglar (Karl Rove will call Ted Cruz a "white hispanic".)
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To: Netz

Come up with more appropriate names, a few below:
Washington Thinskins
Washington (D or Th)ickheads
Washington Whores
Washington Slime
Washington Dictators
Washington Plunderers


11 posted on 10/09/2013 12:32:01 AM PDT by Rainier1789 (My Constitution has a 2nd and 10th Amendment)
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To: Impala64ssa

Whatever it is, I’m against it. Groucho Marx


12 posted on 10/09/2013 12:47:51 AM PDT by novascotianative
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To: Impala64ssa

A liberal once told me how insensitive the word “indian” was. I was a little confused, since I knew quite a few indians and they called themselves indians. One of them even had an “Indians Discovered America” bumper sticker.

These two guys used to put on cultural shows around town, doing authentic pow wows. One of them told me that at their then-most recent show, their sheets with the words blew away, so they started doing the stereotypical “hey-ya, hey-ya, hey-ya!” “The crowd didn’t know the difference!” He was a fun guy—a little prone to BS stories—so I don’t know if it’s true. It should be, though.

Another fun story from this guy: he said he was on the baseball diamond, playing some pick-up baseball, when a kid rode up and breathlessly told them that Jimi Hendrix had died. This guy was my guitar teacher, so I said, “Oh, wow! Were you pretty broken up?” “Nah,” he replied. “I was more into the Archies at that point.” Real deadpan.

His favorite movie was Billy Jack. He’d slowmo it on the scene with the roundhouse kick and say, “Look! Billy Jack just turned Chinese!” The stuntman was really Korean, but he got a big kick (no pun intended) out of that.


13 posted on 10/09/2013 1:00:41 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Impala64ssa
..."in a truly decent society, some would argue, what hurts a few should be avoided by all."

Ok!

My list:

Abortion

Homosexuality

Islam

Welfare recipients

Illegals

Alec Baldiwn

Chris Matthews

14 posted on 10/09/2013 1:01:57 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: Rainier1789

... how about the Washington Partisanship NO-compromisers?


15 posted on 10/09/2013 1:02:12 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Rainier1789

How about the “DC Diversities”?


16 posted on 10/09/2013 1:05:52 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Impala64ssa
The Redskins have always been offensive to me.
17 posted on 10/09/2013 1:10:01 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Impala64ssa

When Obama decided to yet again stick his big POTUS bazoo into non-presidential business and comment on changing the ‘Skins name, I immediately got on Amazon and bought me a beauty of an original team logo ball cap!!

GO REDSKINS!!!


18 posted on 10/09/2013 1:11:30 AM PDT by 4buttons
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To: novascotianative

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19 posted on 10/09/2013 1:20:55 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Impala64ssa

In honor of our federal government change the name to the Washington Pork Skins.


20 posted on 10/09/2013 1:41:53 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: Netz

Any time this president speaks we’re in trouble.

Based on his comments on the Redskins I’m surprised he hasn’t requested the Patriots name be changed because it’s offensive to Socialists.


21 posted on 10/09/2013 2:14:23 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: Impala64ssa

I cannot think of anything that keeps the “red man / woman” more in the mind of the white man / woman, the black man / woman, etc., than sports’ teams names. Well, ok, old Westerns (shows) may be a close 2nd with “Whitey”. But the recognition via sports teams is, in this century, surely better than most (not all) of the old shows. I doubt that 2% of the people who use the words “Washington Redskins” consider the name in any way derogatory to American Indians, tho’ I’m sure 50% probably are derogatory to the sports team. :-)

Now, maybe the above is not “how it should be”, but, to quote a certain radio personality, “it is what it is.”

Does the red man wish to disappear from public consciousness? Fine. Let’s rename the Washington Redskins to, say, the Washington Bureaucrats. It’d be appropriate!


22 posted on 10/09/2013 2:18:36 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: maddog55
...in a truly decent society, some would argue, what hurts a few should be avoided by all...

It is hurtful to me and large number of other people that obama and the "progressives/socialists" are in our government. Therefore, to make this a truly decent society, I demand that they leave so I won't feel hurt and pain.

23 posted on 10/09/2013 2:21:42 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: maddog55

How about calling Green Bay, the Green Bay Local Packers #320 United?


24 posted on 10/09/2013 2:33:45 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Impala64ssa

The Washington Neolithic Hunter-Gatherers.


25 posted on 10/09/2013 2:43:46 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Surf music is the naked truth)
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To: Impala64ssa

I find the name ‘Cowboys’ to be offensive, but it isn’t my place to tell Jerry Jones to change the name of his team.


26 posted on 10/09/2013 2:45:54 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: maddog55
Based on his comments on the Redskins I’m surprised he hasn’t requested the Patriots name be changed because it’s offensive to Socialists.

Green Bay fans must be whistling past the graveyard on this subject...

27 posted on 10/09/2013 3:31:41 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Impala64ssa

I suggest they be called the

“Washington POST-CLOVIS BERING STRAIT LAND BRIDGE MIGRANTS”.

It may be a little long, but anthropologically accurate.


28 posted on 10/09/2013 4:14:44 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Impala64ssa

When any team owner is called before congress (or any other kangaroo court type thing) they should ask one question “Are any of your shareholders?”

If none of them answer “yes” then he should get up, say “Mind your own business” and walk out.

Congress has NO business meddling in the private affairs of anyone, that includes steroid use in baseball, team names, health care etc.


29 posted on 10/09/2013 4:58:31 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Peter ODonnell

Amen , he is no Patriot.


30 posted on 10/09/2013 5:02:51 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

... and we have today’s winner!


31 posted on 10/09/2013 5:28:57 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Personally I find the name Washington Redskins to be extremely insensitive and offensive. So much so that I get a sick feeling whenever I hear it. They should change the name to “Redskins”.


32 posted on 10/09/2013 5:30:25 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Impala64ssa

I’m offended by the name of the place our Presidents live.......


33 posted on 10/09/2013 6:09:42 AM PDT by ALASKA (Disgusted......)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

This morning Jody Dean, the resident moron, on KLUV radio in Dallas offered up the name the Washington Americans.

I almost gagged on my toothbrush. If there is anything LESS American than what goes on in Washington D.C., I can’t think what it could be.


34 posted on 10/09/2013 6:23:43 AM PDT by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Impala64ssa

If they are forced to drop the name “Redskins” I suggest that they do not have a replacement name. Just go as the Washington, DC NFL football team.


35 posted on 10/09/2013 7:36:25 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Impala64ssa

They should change “The Washington Redskins” to a name that does not bring despicable and negative associations:

“The Redskins”


36 posted on 10/09/2013 8:14:40 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Cruz Control 2016!)
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To: Impala64ssa

Or to borrow from Prince, we could call them “the team formerly known as the Redskins”.


37 posted on 10/09/2013 8:18:15 AM PDT by marron
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To: Impala64ssa

I don’t like the way this is going, I hope they keep the name though.


38 posted on 10/10/2013 7:20:15 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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