[Uncle Miltie]

The big trade needs to be that I get screwed, but my daughter is off the hook, and we kill Social Security as it is.

We can replace it with a welfare program for the poverty stricken elderly.

But my daughter stops paying into SS forever.

Deal?

[Paladin2]

John Galt is not paying FICA taxes.

[Iron Munro]

The big trade needs to be that I get screwed, but my daughter is off the hook, and we kill Social Security as it is.

Once Social Security is phased out everyone will be forcibly thrown on Obamacare.

Everyone who is not a moocher or other democrat supporter will be required to purchase an ObamaCare Insurance plan until they day they die.

[silverleaf]

deal

now, just pay back all the “trust fund” that was “borrowed” and spent by Congress

[Jimmy Valentine]

This will resolve itself. You may not have noticed (sarc) but the Fed is printing money as fast as it can go. Inflation will drive the value of the dollar down to the point where your SS check will buy a six pack of beer and a carton of cigarets withing five years or so.

See? easy

[DJtex]

We can replace it with a welfare program for the poverty stricken elderly.

"Means testing," a great 'Pubbie buzzword being turned against their own followers, sounds "fair" but SSI is not welfare. Means testing wouldn't stay constant. The annual "wealth" cutoff adjustment automatically balances SSI, cutting the number of qualified recipients to match that year's declining revenue. Eventually it covers only the poorest Americans; those with the lowest wealth and savings.

It would be fairer to shave SSI outgo a few percentage points for everyone than to say that if you paid in and put aside savings you don't deserve to have the government honor it's empty promises in your "Golden years."