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No Recourse for Girls Harassed by Transgender Student
CBN ^ | October 11, 2013 | CBNNews.com

Posted on 10/11/2013 5:08:23 PM PDT by xzins

The push for radical transgender rights in schools is trumping privacy rights at one Colorado high school.

A male student at Florence High School who claims to be a transgender has been harrassing girls in the bathroom. When parents complained, school officials said the boy's rights as a transgender trumped their daughters' privacy rights.

As the controversy grew, some students were threatened with being kicked off athletic teams or charged with hate crimes if they continued to voice concerns.

The Pacific Justice Institute sent the school a letter warning against squelching privacy rights.

"We're not going to stand by and let 99.7 percent of our students lose their privacy and free speech rights just because .3 percent of the population are gender-confused," the PJI wrote.

PJI is demanding assurances from the school that privacy and expressive rights will be protected and any accommodations will not involve the girls giving up access to most of their restrooms, as has previously been suggested by the school.


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To: Caipirabob

Pick your own delusion seems to be the name of the game


61 posted on 10/11/2013 6:34:37 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: exDemMom
I guess, though, it *would* give an advantage if he wants to call himself a woman and compete in women’s sports. It is awfully unfair to real women, however.

I've always figured that if re-incarnation is for real, I'd want to come back as a lesbian.....I could still chase women and I could tee off from the red tees!

62 posted on 10/11/2013 6:39:27 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: xzins

I remember when I was about 5 or 6, the woman who babysat us while my mother worked had a baby. I kept calling it a girl, and the mother kept correcting me that it was a boy. I have often wondered whether that child had a milder form of that disorder (now that I’m old enough to know about genetic disorders).

A poster above suggested that school policies should strictly be based on the presence of XX or XY chromosomes; my point is that even a genetic test is not absolute proof. A school district cannot have an absolute policy that XY will be treated as boys and XX as girls, when there is a small number of XY who are born as physiological girls. These individuals are not in the same category as “transgenders” who are clearly pretending to be someone of the opposite gender.


63 posted on 10/11/2013 6:45:54 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: irishjuggler

And whose side would all the parents who vote for the School Board take? And how high is too high a cost for doing what’s right?

That said, if done right, any actual physical contact would have to be initiated by the guy trying to shove his way into the girls bathroom. At that point, it becomes simple battery on his part, and a measured response is self-defense in the eyes of the law. So, the whole plan could be as simple as guys physically blocking the doorways EXCEPT to allow girls in and out. The other guy tries to go in; they simply do not move, or even acknowledge him. He tries to shove his way in, and he’s the bad guy for getting physical.

Now, after school, off-campus — he’d best have an armed security detail, and make a point to NEVER be alone.


64 posted on 10/11/2013 6:46:02 PM PDT by HKMk23 (ditditdit dahdahdah ditditdit)
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To: HKMk23
I see an immediate opening for members of the Varsity football team to stand as guards outside the girls bathrooms on campus to, uh, discourage the entry of a particular individual at any time the room is not otherwise unoccupied.

please exempt the "tight ends" from this obligation

65 posted on 10/11/2013 6:46:05 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Mamzelle
No. To demand a chaperone is a hassle. A serious hassle. A very expensive hassle. Think abou it. What I suggest will work.

It will work to achieve what goal?
66 posted on 10/11/2013 6:46:25 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: exDemMom

School policy is not about exceptions, though, Mom. It’s about the broad spectrum.

If there are exceptions to policy that are extremely rare such as this, most schools would never encounter the need, and when they did there would be confidential consultations among administrators, medical experts, and families.

And, if I understood you correctly, this child would have been treated as female, accepted since childhood as female, and presented as female for her entire childhood. As you say, this would not be a male deciding to get a peek at the girls by claiming one week to be a female. In fact, if unknowing of her actual status, this child’s parents would be outraged at the fakes being allowed in the girls’ restrooms.


67 posted on 10/11/2013 6:53:10 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: tacticalogic
Regardless of what their agenda or malfunction is it doesn't entitle them to abuse other people, and an attitude adjustment appears to be in order.

I never said that a person suffering from a genetic or mental disorder should be allowed to abuse others. Clearly, the boy in the article is claiming to be "transgendered" in order to gain unfettered access to girl-only areas. This is a clear kind of abuse that is predictable in this environment where every mental illness related to sexuality is something to be celebrated rather than treated.

However, there are a small number of people who have the XY chromosomes yet are physically female. They are not "transgenders"--they have a genetic disorder, and may not even know it. A policy that treats everyone as boys on the basis of XY chromosomes would be unfair and abusive to these individuals.

68 posted on 10/11/2013 6:54:31 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: xzins

Indeed.

I have objections to blanket school policies, regardless of the subject of the policy. I have seen way too many children being suspended for idiotic reasons such as drawing a gun, or nibbling a Pop Tart into the shape of a gun. School administrators become so enamored of their absolutist policies that they fail to realize when their policies do more harm than good. Using common sense and judging the specific situation don’t seem to happen in these “all or nothing” environments.

There is absolutely no reason to allow a boy into a girl’s locker room, no matter how much he insists that he is “transgender.” An absolute policy forbidding anyone who is genetically XY from entering the girl’s locker room would be just as bad.

You did understand me correctly; someone with this disorder would likely not learn that she is genetically male until she is in her teens or older.


69 posted on 10/11/2013 7:10:31 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: xzins

Amazing. I predicted this the second we gave into the pervert agenda. It’ll get worse until sane people stop this nonsense.


70 posted on 10/11/2013 7:16:12 PM PDT by opres
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Kick the perverts out of school.


71 posted on 10/11/2013 7:16:12 PM PDT by opres
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To: a fool in paradise

These filthy perverts will not be satisfied until they take over our entire nation. They already have the president, Dems and RINOs defending them. Please we need to take back the country from the radical left!


72 posted on 10/11/2013 7:16:12 PM PDT by opres
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To: SpaceBar

The school is responsible for the death of that troubled young man and the ruined life of his assailant. Bastards!


73 posted on 10/11/2013 7:26:33 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (We can't expect to get anywhere unless we resort to terrorism-Lenin)
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To: exDemMom

Jesus said that some are born eunuchs.

Matthew 19: 10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.” 11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”


74 posted on 10/11/2013 7:27:54 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: HKMk23
School officials are deciding science based on a political (or faith based, take your pick) POV.

The male student as reported, is possibly guilty of:

Bullying - HA!! but modern bullying campaigns are only about one thing - creating new gays

Assault - one can't touch, hit or often even speak without being charged with battery of some sort

Sexual assault - yes, same sex assault does occur, and not just inside prisons, and penetration does not need to occur.

And a few more that I just don't have the imagination of a lawyer to consider.

Have a student call the anti-bullying hotline - 1-800-273-TALK (8255). All calls go to a counselor and can be anonymous - except to the NSA.

Hey, the left routinely makes accusations against conservatives without a shred of truth. Here we have much more than a shred of truth - use it.

75 posted on 10/11/2013 7:54:21 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: xzins

HE is a male, what is this creep doing in the girl’s bathroom!


76 posted on 10/11/2013 8:24:38 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: xzins

When I was in junior high, I desperately wanted to use the girl’s locker room, proving that I was a lesbian trapped in a man’s body.


77 posted on 10/11/2013 8:31:55 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("So the minimum plan for obamacare is 100 bucks a month I like you Obama but nigga I'm broke")
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To: xzins

Is he a male lesbian?


78 posted on 10/11/2013 8:44:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: xzins

They will take showers with your daughters and harass them and if the girl complains she will be punished. This is how it already is in Colorado, Kalipornia, Massataxes and New York Sewer


79 posted on 10/11/2013 8:46:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Salman

Transgender = A Dick who hates his own Dick but doesn’t have the Balls to get it removed.


80 posted on 10/11/2013 8:57:47 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Due to the Federal Government Shutdown, the Tagline is closed.)
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