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1 posted on 10/12/2013 5:49:47 AM PDT by rhema
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“I know that we’re called to stand for truth and righteousness. Sometimes that can cause problems,” Klein said. “I’m more than willing to take on the problems that come with it to stand up for God’s work. I’m in the middle of it, but this is God’s fight.”

Though the Kleins’ story has mostly faded from the news for now, their fight is long from over. As they and other wedding vendors face discrimination accusations and struggle to defend their faith, likely in rising numbers with the end of DOMA, it’s important to remember the true meaning of tolerance and acceptance—and it’s not the definition the LGBT community preaches.

2 posted on 10/12/2013 5:52:16 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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Call it the Creampuff Crusades.


3 posted on 10/12/2013 5:52:38 AM PDT by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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Sadly, the only way to handle this, under rational courts again rule, is by diversion and obfuscation. When asked to do such a cake, the cakemaker should simply reject the order for some other reason: overbooked calendar, time off, personal work load preference, that kind of thing as it fits.

Take all cakes on application and approval. Always let the customer know that an answer will be based on compiling all orders for a particular time and responding based on your calendar and ability. Always reject orders based on time, inability, work load, etc.


9 posted on 10/12/2013 5:58:55 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Soon, very soon the radical fascists on the left will be taking us out to the desert to rid the country of Tea Party people and Christians, and we will smile all the while...

We should have a buycott of this business and buy everything they make.


11 posted on 10/12/2013 6:00:23 AM PDT by stockpirate (Build a gallows outside the US Capital and they will come..or we need to drag them to it..)
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Picture a nice big chocolate wedding cake made with Ex-Lax for a special treat.


12 posted on 10/12/2013 6:01:37 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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If this was a Muslim bakery that refused it would be a different story. Which side would they sport then? Which Victim would win?


16 posted on 10/12/2013 6:10:33 AM PDT by madmominct
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If the mother was not, the problem is not


17 posted on 10/12/2013 6:13:29 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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The short term answer is obviously to withhold the truth. You cannot speak honestly to someone when declining their business, not in the country that our United States has now become. Accept whatever diversity drivel you hear and then, at some later point that day, a week later, or the day before the wedding, plead a conflict, personal crisis, or whatever to regretfully cancel. There is a time and a place for everything, but when you are vulnerable to Gestapo tactics is not the time to explain that decent people neither celebrate perversion nor directly enable such celebrations.

The long term answer is to fix our laws. Physical violence against gays because they are gay is bad, just as bad as the legal violence against Christians that these activists are initiating. However, we have an absolute right as free people to refuse service to any potential customer for any reason or without reason. We need to reclaim that human right as a legal right. We also need to reclaim that human right as a practical right, in part by shunning those who engage is gay-activist blackmail and related abuses of the legal system. It’s time for decent people to permanently boycott those who support slavery and the use of government force to compel involuntary servitude.


18 posted on 10/12/2013 6:15:06 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Wonderful people these cross wires—instead of going to bakery that will bake a damn cake for their little ceremony, they’d rather force all to comply! You must comply!!
Rat-hole sh*t-heads.


22 posted on 10/12/2013 6:19:44 AM PDT by BamaAndy
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Make the cake..... drive to the wedding..... when taking it out of vehicle.... Opps! It fall down go boom...Loose money, yes... Seeing their faces... priceless...


23 posted on 10/12/2013 6:23:25 AM PDT by baddog 219
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They received death threats against their children. LGBT groups targeted other wedding vendors in the Gresham area, threatening to boycott them as well if they continued or agreed to do business with Sweet Cakes by Melissa.

“People would keep calling [other wedding vendors] until they stopped doing business with us. It’s racketeering...

Nice to see LBBT types are tolerant of people who are different than they are... /s

24 posted on 10/12/2013 6:24:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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Sounds reminiscent of the old-time “protection racket” that gangsters used to run. I swear to God, if any of these disease-ridden perverts tried this on me, I’d pull the trigger on them.


25 posted on 10/12/2013 6:30:21 AM PDT by greene66
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What’s needed is a standby BAD Christian who will drag the devil by her eyesockets out into the snow, break off a broomstick and make her into an LGBT scarecrow.


26 posted on 10/12/2013 6:32:10 AM PDT by Anton.Rutter
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I’d bake ‘em a cake ... a Mexican sheetcake! (They’d probably rave about it.)


28 posted on 10/12/2013 6:35:19 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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The culinary arts have become a gay industry - just check out the Food Network if you doubt me. No straight men and women need apply.


29 posted on 10/12/2013 6:38:20 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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A polite "No Thank you" would be sufficient. The trouble comes when you add the "WHY" of your decision. It may seem to be your "right" but that does not mean you are not offensive to someone who did nothing to you.

I took real offense when I was a tax accountant when someone changed to another tax preparer because of the political party I was a member of. How spiteful! How mean! And how sad, too. American used to be better.

30 posted on 10/12/2013 6:39:49 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Vlad the Impaler proposed no path to citizenship. Consider that.)
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I would have said that you couldn’t do the cake on that day. You found out after you asked the date that it was a lesbian wedding. I would have excused myself and told them, I have to check the calendar to see if we are available on that date. Then I would have come back and said, sorry. We can’t do the cake we have prior engagements.

That is how you handle it....just make sure you are not open on that date, prior engagement could be anything, like a mental health day to stay home, family get together, etc.

Ask the date, groom or bride’s name, then check your calendar...in that order.


33 posted on 10/12/2013 6:51:45 AM PDT by Engedi
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Oregon is a microcosm of what has ruined America. The Persons Republic of Eugene has the votes and rules the entire state.

Eugene has a huge population of Libtards and queers beyond counting. Not surprisingly, Eugene and Big Sh*ty activists across America, are forcing queer politics on the non-queer population.

Eventually, the public will either arise and expel or kill off those who continually anger them OR America will become a hollow shell of what it once was.

ANgela Merkel understood when she said “Multi-culti ist tod.”

Either multi-culturalism (and ‘diverse perversion’) dies or America dies. The Germans understand the looming risk.

Do we?

Tomorrow does not look good.


40 posted on 10/12/2013 7:32:09 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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Bullying involves embarrassment and intimidation. The answer of the baker should have been “Please don’t try to intimidate me. I would be embarrassed to make that type of cake.” And if that answer was answered with more anger and accusations rather then tolerance for diversity of thought, then the baker says “This is sexual harassment and I will will sue you for sexual harassment if you keep trying to intimidate me into doing something that will embarrass and demoralize me.” I am sure these same bakers, as Christians, also don’t bake cakes shaped like private body parts because they are Christians and it would be against their values. And being forced to do and go against their values would embarrass and demoralize them.


49 posted on 10/12/2013 9:01:27 AM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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Last year, when gay marriage became legal in Maryland, a trolley tour that had hosted wedding rides through historic Annapolis shut down because it did not want to be forced to accept gay wedding business, or be sued for refusing.
50 posted on 10/12/2013 9:08:48 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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