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David Stockman: Soak the Rich (with a 30% wealth tax)
Barron's ^ | October 11, 2013 | Robert Milburn

Posted on 10/14/2013 5:45:35 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

When governments move beyond taxing incomes to confiscation, you know the end of that government is near. It is the fiscal equivalent to a malignant tumor which will soon kill its host; in this case the productive working public.

This will end the way it always has ended throughout history with the eventual collapse of the government. It’s inevitable. The cancer does not want to be told that it is the problem.


41 posted on 10/14/2013 6:51:46 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: reaganaut1

Okay....pulling the Marines out of Lebanon after the bomb, nominating Sandy Day O’Connor and hiring THIS guy....the Gipper made THREE bad moves.


42 posted on 10/14/2013 6:55:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dangerdoc
Most of the dem elite have already made theirs, income tax does not affect them, if you are ever going to get their skin in the game, it will be in the form of a wealth tax. The IRS taking 30% of the Kenendy clan’s money gives me a little tingle running up my leg.

A wealth "tax" (confiscation, actually) would never apply to the ruling elites any more than Obamacare.

43 posted on 10/14/2013 6:56:29 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The U.S. is dead to me.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I love Ronald Reagan, the best president of my lifetime, but he made some additional bad moves.

His 1986 Amnesty, which he later regretted......supporting the Brady Bill......picking George H. Bush as his VP.

Overall, though, he’s the only president I’ve actually missed when he was no longer in office.


44 posted on 10/14/2013 7:08:31 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Or is it 30% each year for 10 years? I think it is this.


45 posted on 10/14/2013 7:09:14 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Good point.

The income tax is not a tax on the rich. It’s a tax on people trying to get rich. Is it any surprise that people who are already rich support heavy taxes that prevent others from joining their ranks?

The real rich in this country support democrats because they know the Constitution frowns on wealth taxes, and so the Democrats can tax all the income they want but they’ll never take the principal that wealthy people have already stored up.


46 posted on 10/14/2013 7:15:46 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: reaganaut1

Just when I was starting to like Stockman again.


47 posted on 10/14/2013 7:20:54 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: reaganaut1

One of Ronald Reagan’s biggest mistakes was in not firing this idiot at his first public insubordination.

A BUDGET DIRECTOR WHO QUESTIONS THE PRESIDENT’S PRIORITIES????? Stockman is garbage—recycled garbage.


48 posted on 10/14/2013 7:26:11 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: McGavin999

Agreed. More scenes we’d like to see. Of course Democrats will never go along with it. They have an uncanny willingness to spend other people’s money. But when it comes to their own, not so much.


49 posted on 10/14/2013 7:27:49 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: jimfree
I would consent to a one-time wealth levy.

And I'd consent to a leprechaun leaving his gold on my door step, a unicorn for my grand-daughter to play with, and mermaids in the local lake to talk to while fishing.

There's no way such a powerful tool would ever be given up by the powers that be.

50 posted on 10/14/2013 7:29:17 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: reaganaut1

“The tax wouldn’t be permanent—it could be lifted in 10 years or so,”

Chortle


51 posted on 10/14/2013 7:31:51 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: reaganaut1

Hey Dave!

CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING!!!

Limit government expeditures to CONSTITUTIONALLY AUTHORIZED FUNCTIONS!!


52 posted on 10/14/2013 7:34:55 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: SgtHooper

Here’s the quote: “Stockman would subject the nation’s top 10% of households to a levy equal to 30% of their wealth, payable over a decade.”

We can argue over the interpretation, but I think it means that if you have, say, $1 million, the government gives you a bill for $100,000 payable in installments over 10 years.

Look at it this way: If the government took 30% of your wealth EACH year for 10 years, you would have (0.7^10) left, or 2.8% of what you started out with. That would be a 97.2% confiscation—and you would certainly not be in the top 10% of wealth-holders after that. Stockman might have a radical idea here, but I doubt that radical!


53 posted on 10/14/2013 7:39:15 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: reaganaut1

Most recent statistics I can find say that the 10% break point for household wealth is $827,000. This includes the value of your house, personal property, stocks and bonds, and retirement accounts.

So if you think the IRS is intrusive now, with a wealth tax they would have to come out and visit you and conduct an appraisal on everything they believe you own.

Governments in extremis will do whatever it takes to keep the money flowing into their pockets. If it takes a 100% wealth tax, then that’s a small price for the citizenry to pay in their view.


54 posted on 10/14/2013 8:10:25 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: reaganaut1

This is another communist looking to lie about money. If we took every penny from the rich we couldn’t pay off the national debt or even pay this year’s deficit and he knows that.


55 posted on 10/14/2013 8:12:29 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: wita

Oh, I said I would consent to a wealth tax and I am not in the 1%. I want such a tax across the board. Take it out of the secretary’s 401(k) and the child’s 527 and the drug dealer’s stash and wherever.

And it can only become effective after the passing of the Liberty Amendments.

They would never give up the power? Funny how that works.


56 posted on 10/14/2013 9:05:28 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: wita

Oh, I said I would consent to a wealth tax and I am not in the 1%. I want such a tax across the board. Take it out of the secretary’s 401(k) and the child’s 527 and the drug dealer’s stash and wherever.

And it can only become effective after the passing of the Liberty Amendments.

They would never give up the power? Funny how that works.


57 posted on 10/14/2013 9:05:29 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: reaganaut1
How about instead selling off 30% of the federal government's horded land?

Also, will this proposed tax crack open the Kennedy family's system of trusts which has kept intact their riches even past two to three generations of supposed inheritance taxation. As great believers in the inheritance tax, half of Joe's money should have been given to the government instead of to his children, then half of the remaining amount given to the government instead of their children and then half of the wealth of those of the current generation of elder Kennedeys (like JFK, Jr.) who have died should have gone to the government. How much has actually been paid? Probably a lot closer to 0% than 75-87.5% as would be predicted.

58 posted on 10/14/2013 9:45:15 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: reaganaut1

I suggest cutting all government spending by 30% instead.


59 posted on 10/14/2013 11:28:49 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

LOL, hafta agree with you! :-)


60 posted on 10/14/2013 11:57:59 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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