Posted on 10/14/2013 6:18:15 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
Cruz running on a third party ticket would never have won. But now that the Tea Party candidates are in office they should leave the GOP and start their own party. Then let’s see if the elites will caucus with the democrats.
I’ve always thought the republicans taking over the house only postponed what’s eventually going to happen if the GoP doesn’t grow some balls. If they hadn’t taken control in 2010 I believe the democrats would have taken a bath in 2012.
Ted Cruz and Mike Lee get that. If more Republicans in DC understood that, the GOP wouldn’t have lost the last presidential election because a few million members of its base stayed home."
This is the real reason that Romney lost, and is the key thing that a great many Freepers still need to analytically process to move forward to real victory.
Dittos. I will never be bullied, cajoled, pressured, or shamed into voting against my principles again. If the GOP wants my vote, they'd better give me real Republicans to vote for.
I think it's still too early for elected members of Congress to break out and join a newly formed third party. There just aren't enough of them in place to form a winning coalition at this point.
On the other hand, if a new patriotic national party forms at the grass roots level, and builds up to a credible level of membership, it could begin sending new members to Congress while attracting many previously elected members to switch over.
Or something like that. The precise sequence of events required to make a success of it aren't boldly visible at this time.
One thing's certain though, and that is, the Republican party is split into opposing factions right now, and the new guard has the winning momentum over the old guard. If we on the true right simply maintain focus and discipline, we will eventually replace all of the quisling RINOs in office with solid TEApublicans.
A third party won’t fix the problem and if the tea party is not capable of taking over the GOP standing for the same language that is in the GOP platform, what makes you think it would be any more successful as a third party when the RINO’s would march with the rats?
As I said above in post 19, we are the minority and it is unlikely to change anytime soon. It’s not popular to say around here, but our view of America and the political preferences of our people do not reflect reality. The majority can now vote to steal from the minority and the majority is growing as the minority shrinks.
The Affordable Care Act (a massive new tax on working people) is now law. On top of that, the ACA is likely to suppress health care - a huge portion of our economy further reducing tax revenues. The rats are talking more about new taxes rather than cutting government spending and they continue to hand out more entitlements every day. Our monetary policy of borrowing from the Federal Reserve is growing and few understand the “tax” this represents to working people and future generations.
We are a nation held hostage by our poor via entitlements and the middle class even bought into the Ponzi scheme with social security. Amnesty will make this even worse. We now have schools providing free breakfast and lunch to poor students (almost all of them) in Texas!!!!!! Do you think they are going to readjust the families SNAP allowance every month to reflect 20 fewer meals? I don’t.
Sorry FRiend, but we are losing..... badly. I want Cruz and Company to succeed, but they can only thwart the will of the majority for so long - a majority of the GOP also by the way. Thinking that Cruz or any other conservative has the powers of persuasion to overcome our demographics is wishful thinking. Thinking they are somehow going to start a successful third party when the growing number of freeloaders work once every two years (vote) is not realistic.
I wish it were not so.
I don't think I've ever suggested that Ted Cruz could whup the Democrat left and the RINO establishment single handedly. But - it's a fact that he has terrified them all so badly, they're having a collective meltdown. That's power, and it's being wielded by a lone Senator.
Put half a dozen more like him in office, and the whole left will collapse.
Now, you can choose to wring your hands and give up the battle just as we're beginning to take back ground from the enemy, but I and most others here won't. I also won't agree to your assertion that "our view of America and the political preferences of our people do not reflect reality."
Just because the Dems have better field advantage at the moment, and there aren't tens of millions of us surrounding DC, doesn't mean that we're in the minority, or that the war is lost.
I don't, and I won't buy that. The day I do, is the day I hand in my Freeper card and quit posting here. It would be pointless to sit among these good patriots if I weren't with them in mind, body, and spirit. Should I ever lose the will to fight, I will remove myself from their honorable company.
As should any person who's resigned themselves to our defeat.
I don’t know the answers. I am not a pessimist by nature and I am not a quitter - I try to do my part. We face difficult times and as my tagline says - we (being all Americans) have to suffer some pain to provide our children a brighter future and likely save our nation as it has existed. I am very frustrated that more Americans don’t understand the mess we are in and how we got here and what is required to get out of it. There seems to be little interest in doing the right thing.
What I said about taking back the GOP stands. If right minded Americans can’t control the GOP despite controlling the platform we need to primary the RINO’s and regain control - it’s difficult, but it has been done. If we can’t force the GOP to abide by it’s platform we don’t have the power and voice necessary to wake up our nation and a third party won’t do anything but insure control by the rats.
I appreciate your enthusiasm and desire to do the right thing and please know I intended no criticism - I will keep fighting for what is right, but I am also preparing for the hard times that appear to be coming and others would be well served to do the same. I don’t feel good about it.
I think that's all any of us can ask of each other.
I hope my earlier response didn't come across as a personal criticism. I can appreciate anyone's weariness and pessimism after five years of relentless battering by the forces of 'fundamental transformation'. At the same time, I think it's important for us to recognize that together we are a far greater force than Zero and his minions could ever dream of being.
We stand for all that is good, decent, worthy, and honorable in our nation. We love this country, it's history, its contributions to humanity, and the precepts which underlie its founding.
All of those excellent qualities are a part of us. They're what animate us, as we would have our children and their children share in the good and right which has been the nature and character of this wonderful country.
I suppose I'd simply ask that others look long and hard at who and what we really are as a people, when they're feeling down, defeated, or pessimistic about our future.
Thanks.
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