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To: donmeaker
I oppose starting illegal violent insurrections.

There's the difference between you and I. You oppose the insurrection and I oppose the kind of government that would provoke one and make it necessary.

While a violent insurrection is an absolute action of last resort to me (as it should be for everyone) I find it far more dangerous to rule it out lest in doing so we convince potential tyrants that they can go about their tyranny unopposed.

I personally like the idea that people in government should get nervous when they start doing things they ought not do. If things get to where they have no fear of being held to account by oversight or the courts then they most certainly should fear being held to account by the citizenry. They should fear the smell of hot tar and they should fear the sight of every lamp post they pass by.

The day those people hold no fear of the rest of us is the day that violent insurrection will no longer be a matter of choice but one of survival.

79 posted on 10/17/2013 10:10:29 AM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: MeganC

I figure that nuts like Tim McVeigh are always ready to start insurrections long before I am.

Per Wikipedia:
Even many who agreed with some of McVeigh’s politics viewed his act as counterproductive, with much of the criticism focused on the deaths of innocent children; critics expressed chagrin that McVeigh had not assassinated specific government leaders. McVeigh had indeed contemplated the assassinations of Attorney General Janet Reno, Lon Horiuchi, and others in preference to attacking a building, and after the bombing he said that he sometimes wished he had carried out a series of assassinations instead. Those who expressed sympathy for McVeigh typically described his deed as an act of war, as in the case of Gore Vidal’s essay The Meaning of Timothy McVeigh. Other journalists compared him to John Brown.

McVeigh believed that the bomb attack had a positive impact on government policy. In evidence he cited the peaceful resolution of the Montana Freemen standoff in 1996, the government’s $3.1 million settlement with Randy Weaver and his surviving children four months after the bombing, and April 2000 statements by Bill Clinton regretting his decision to storm the Branch Davidian compound. McVeigh stated, “Once you bloody the bully’s nose, and he knows he’s going to be punched again, he’s not coming back around.”

Keep in mind, McVeigh committed his little atrocity in 1995 right after Clinton’s party had just lost 54 seats in the house and 8 in the senate. Clinton rode sympathy for the victims of the atrocity and concern about Militia terrorism into a second term.

It is easier to win an election against a political party with nuclear weapons than it is to win a war against them.


85 posted on 10/17/2013 10:27:49 AM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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