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Majority of 25,000 enrolled through new WA health exchange will have fully-subsidized insurance
mynorthwest.com ^ | October 16, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 10/17/2013 1:16:37 PM PDT by matt1234

Enrollments in health care plans through Washington state's new health care exchange continue to increase, but it turns out a majority of the enrollees so far won't be paying for their plans.

"The Medicaid newly eligible population accounts for a little more than half of the 25,000 that we've seen," Michael Marchand, with the new Washington Health Care Exchange, tells KIRO Radio's Dave Ross.

A Medicaid expansion under Obamacare raised the income threshold for those eligible.

"So that's the new population that's part of the expansion that the state undertook," says Marchand. "It's quite possible that those people may have never had health insurance in the past and have been able to go to Washington Health Plan Finder and determine that their eligibility actually qualifies them for free insurance."

In addition to the 25,000 enrolled, an additional 37,000 residents have completed online applications that are awaiting payment that is due in December.

The state estimates about 1 million Washington state residents do not have health insurance, or about one in seven people.

Marchand says they've found the bulk of those uninsured will likely get fully-subsidized health care or assistance of some kind.

"We've figured out that probably more than 90 percent of those who are of the 1 million who are currently uninsured, they're going to receive financial help in one way or another, whether it's free or through tax credits."

Washington residents have six months to buy health insurance through the new exchange during the first enrollment period ending in March.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; parasites; wa; washington; zerocare
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1 posted on 10/17/2013 1:16:37 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: matt1234

Now go and find a health care facility that will accept it. I’ve heard that lots of doctors in my area will not accept ObamaCare no matter what form it’s in.


2 posted on 10/17/2013 1:18:06 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: matt1234

America...what a country...”free” healthcare for all!


3 posted on 10/17/2013 1:18:30 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: matt1234

They will probably get subsidized “medical pot” too.
One thing not in short supply in the NW is people with their hands out.


4 posted on 10/17/2013 1:19:21 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: SkyDancer

I suspect that “problem” will be “fixed” with an executive order to two from Caliph Baraq....


5 posted on 10/17/2013 1:20:07 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: matt1234

We are paying their premiums and they will be competing to see our doctors.

Guess who gets the first appointments, and who does get one because the doctors calendar is full?


6 posted on 10/17/2013 1:20:08 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Damn ObamaCare, full speed ahead!)
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To: matt1234

What qualifies them for the “free” insurance? Do they just have to be breathing or do they need to verify that they can produce feces as well?


7 posted on 10/17/2013 1:20:25 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: matt1234

8 posted on 10/17/2013 1:22:06 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: matt1234

Of course the sample is going to self-select.

Those whose premiums are dramatically increased are not going to sign up whilst those who get it for free WILL sign up.

This is why the left has to implement these programs on EVERYBODY, because only the free loaders will participate otherwise.


9 posted on 10/17/2013 1:22:24 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: nascarnation

I’ve also heard from the folks back home that some doctors will quit or retire rather than be forced to accept that insurance.


10 posted on 10/17/2013 1:22:28 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

May well be.
Insurance is so complex these days the number of small doctor practices is plunging.
Most choose to be affiliated with a massive bureaucracy to deal with the massive govt bureaucracy.


11 posted on 10/17/2013 1:24:24 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: matt1234

“Free Hot Showers for Everyone, Step This Way!” - H. Himmler


12 posted on 10/17/2013 1:26:06 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: All

Seriously, I want to know if they get a free platinum plan or a free bronze plan????


13 posted on 10/17/2013 1:27:42 PM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: matt1234

Those of us who’ll pay more ought to hold the Kenyan Klown to his promise that Obamacare will save us money and refuse to buy anything more expensive than our current plan.


14 posted on 10/17/2013 1:28:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: SkyDancer

Is there a way for them to tell the difference since the insurance is still offered through the same companies non-subsidized people get it from?


15 posted on 10/17/2013 1:32:44 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: matt1234

Art Laffer says its starting in an unrecoverable debt spiral.


16 posted on 10/17/2013 1:35:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JediJones

Not sure. Most likely some sort of credit card thing would be used and right off the admitting nurse or office staff would know it’s that ObamaCare stuff and refuse it. It’s dealing with the paperwork then arguing the fee and having it turned down where the provider has to resubmit over and over to get reimbursed. The government will set the fee schedule; then too, how long to get reimbursed.


17 posted on 10/17/2013 1:35:33 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: matt1234

“Fully subsidized” means paid for by the government and/or through increases in the premiums of people who are paying. So Obama was lying about two things: (1) our premiums will not rise; and (2) this will lower health care spending.


18 posted on 10/17/2013 1:39:20 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: SkyDancer

Doctors will simply go cash only. You pay them, they give you a copy of what is done and you submit it to your insurance company for reimbursement.

Then, you will learn what they use to go through to get paid.


19 posted on 10/17/2013 1:40:22 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: matt1234
In addition to the 25,000 enrolled, an additional 37,000 residents have completed online applications that are awaiting payment that is due in December.

Wow, paying my health insurance or getting a new crack pipe for Christmas decisions ... decisions.

20 posted on 10/17/2013 1:40:46 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Right Wing Yahoos taking Over the GOP --YAHOO!)
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To: CharlotteVRWC
Seriously, I want to know if they get a free platinum plan or a free bronze plan????

Maybe a brass urn?

21 posted on 10/17/2013 1:45:02 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: SkyDancer


Meet the new ObamaCare doctor network...
22 posted on 10/17/2013 1:50:25 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: matt1234

Hmmm. Too many subsidized people would prolly collapse the whole thing, huh?


23 posted on 10/17/2013 1:50:51 PM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Because of my insurance the doctor that sees my kids is a doctor that takes any insurance. The trick is to go or call first thing in the morning when he opens. Most of the medicaid types do not get up too early.


24 posted on 10/17/2013 1:51:25 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: BBell

more in the wagon than pulling the wagon


25 posted on 10/17/2013 1:52:47 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: TADSLOS
“Free Hot Showers for Everyone, Step This Way!” - H. Himmler

I shouldn't have laughed but I could not help it.

26 posted on 10/17/2013 1:53:13 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: skeeter

I doubt if you’ll be able to find a policy equal to what you have now. If the premiums are the same, the deductibles and co-pays won’t be.

There are two types of people who will be insured under obamacare. There will be those who will ransack a Walmart when they think something is free. They never had insurance because they could never afford it so now they’ll get it for free. I’ll call them “Walmart Plunderers”. And there will be those who pay sky high premiums. Part of their premiums will be used to pay for the insurance for the “Walmart Plunderers”.

Cruz tried to warn the people. Unfortunately, the “people” believe the left wing media and they’ll never admit their
O-man’s plan isn’t wonderful. They’ll even pay higher premiums, higher co-pays and higher deductibles and let relatives be sent home to die because obama meant well and at least he showed he cared about us. They’ll BELIEVE this while being herded into the FEMA camps with all of the “Walmart Plunderers”.


27 posted on 10/17/2013 1:53:20 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: matt1234

And as everyone knows, Medicaid is fully solvent, has plenty of available doctors looking for new patients, and isn’t a fiscal train wreck. Right?


28 posted on 10/17/2013 1:53:31 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: jimbo123

Those are the doctors I see now at the VA.


29 posted on 10/17/2013 1:55:55 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: GeronL

Kind of like social security.


30 posted on 10/17/2013 1:55:55 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: ryan71
Too many subsidized people would prolly collapse the whole thing, huh?

That's what I'm thinking. And healthy people can help hasten the collapse by refusing to sign up.

31 posted on 10/17/2013 1:56:28 PM PDT by matt1234 (obamacare: the "New Coke" of the 21st Century)
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To: VerySadAmerican
I've already determined that I will pay at least 4x what I'm currently paying.

Obamacare is a financial nightmare for us.

32 posted on 10/17/2013 1:56:46 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Steve_Seattle

My insurance is through Cigna, and they are on the obamacare exchange. That means that my absurd premiums with my 7500.00 yearly deductible is subsidizing the obama slackers and is of NO benefit to me except making me poor with the added risk of bankruptcy if I ever get sick.


33 posted on 10/17/2013 2:00:30 PM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: skeeter

I still believe a flat out rejection by all those who have to pay will kill it. I don’t believe they can lock everyone up. Even though I know they’d love to.


34 posted on 10/17/2013 2:02:37 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Zathras
They will probably get subsidized “medical pot” too.

You're a genius! yes, I've been wondering what these people who "signed up" for OCare were given/promised for signing up. It's just not believable that one state would have 10000 enrolled and other states had none. unless they were bribed or paid off in some way for signing up.

35 posted on 10/17/2013 2:06:16 PM PDT by uncitizen (Obamacare IS TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION)
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To: VerySadAmerican

I will be receiving my new “options” soon, and I am quite sure that it will be another absurd increase. I will be done with it at that point.


36 posted on 10/17/2013 2:07:09 PM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: VerySadAmerican
I still believe a flat out rejection by all those who have to pay will kill it.

Dr. Laurie Roth, a radio show host out of Spokane, is calling for people to refuse to sign up for healthcare through the exchanges:

The beast is dying now let’s help it die

37 posted on 10/17/2013 2:07:50 PM PDT by matt1234 (obamacare: the "New Coke" of the 21st Century)
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To: VerySadAmerican
I agree, but some are gonna have to take a bullet for the rest of us. 'Cause you know they'll try to make an example of those who resist.

Hell hath no fury as a lard-assed bureaucrat scorned.

38 posted on 10/17/2013 2:12:35 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: jimbo123
More like:


39 posted on 10/17/2013 2:18:40 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: ryan71

“Hmmm. Too many subsidized people would prolly collapse the whole thing, huh?”

No, they’ll squeeze it out of everyone else. That is why the Supreme Court ruled it was a “tax”.


40 posted on 10/17/2013 2:19:24 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: JediJones

I bet they are either on welfare, social security,some sort of public assistance or earn lower wages that is the only way you get it for free and some of those that do work for lower wages may just get tax credits.


41 posted on 10/17/2013 2:20:51 PM PDT by funfan
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To: SkyDancer
The WA plans are by the major providers, so that shouldn't limit access. What will limit access is the costs. What we are going to see now is the poor will get fully paid care. The middle class without employer coverage will have coverage they can barely afford and can't afford to use.

Here are the rates for a family of five on the WA plan. Bronze and silver are basically high deductible plans.

Bronze $880 a month, deductible $5250 ind/$10500 family, max out of pocket $5250/$10500. You are paying everything until you get to your cap, but you are allowed an Health Savings Account.

Silver 1080 a month. Deductibles $2500/$5000, max out of pocket $4100/8200, you pay 20% after you meet the deductible. Still eligible for an HSA.

Gold 1335 a month (more than my mortgage, taxes and insurance on my last home) Deductibles $1500/3000, out of pocket $4500/$9000. Primary care $10 copay. No HSA.

42 posted on 10/17/2013 2:36:09 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: matt1234

Does fully subsidized mean just the monthly premium or the deductible also?


43 posted on 10/17/2013 2:42:08 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (I don't always talk to Obama voters, but when I do I ask for Large Fries.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
“Walmart Plunderers”

AKA the "Free $hit Army" - an Obama constituency to the core, out in force every 4 years; otherwise, nowhere to be found otherwise, unless you look under highway overpasses and in back alleys.

44 posted on 10/17/2013 2:47:54 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: SkyDancer

They are not accepting it until you can prove you’ve met your deductible, too.


45 posted on 10/17/2013 2:51:44 PM PDT by CityCenter
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To: matt1234

Great! Even LESS incentive to get off the dole!


46 posted on 10/17/2013 2:57:31 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: matt1234
Majority of 25,000 enrolled through new WA health exchange will have fully-subsidized insurance

DUH !!!

Maybe the Obama administration really did believe that young, healthy people who don't want health insurance would rush to buy an overpriced ObamaCare policy because they know their money is needed to pay for free insurance for moochers and illegals.


47 posted on 10/17/2013 3:01:33 PM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: JediJones
What qualifies them for the “free” insurance?

EBT Card, Communist Party Card, Democrat Party Membership Card, black skin, be a muslim, or illegal alien.

S/


48 posted on 10/17/2013 3:05:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: CityCenter

Which is somewhere in the neighborhood of $6500 or more.


49 posted on 10/17/2013 3:06:31 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

A friend of mine told me that her parents live in a town in Oregon with one doctor who will take this crap. One doctor!!!


50 posted on 10/17/2013 3:21:13 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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