Skip to comments.Majority of 25,000 enrolled through new WA health exchange will have fully-subsidized insurance
Posted on 10/17/2013 1:16:37 PM PDT by matt1234
Enrollments in health care plans through Washington state's new health care exchange continue to increase, but it turns out a majority of the enrollees so far won't be paying for their plans.
"The Medicaid newly eligible population accounts for a little more than half of the 25,000 that we've seen," Michael Marchand, with the new Washington Health Care Exchange, tells KIRO Radio's Dave Ross.
A Medicaid expansion under Obamacare raised the income threshold for those eligible.
"So that's the new population that's part of the expansion that the state undertook," says Marchand. "It's quite possible that those people may have never had health insurance in the past and have been able to go to Washington Health Plan Finder and determine that their eligibility actually qualifies them for free insurance."
In addition to the 25,000 enrolled, an additional 37,000 residents have completed online applications that are awaiting payment that is due in December.
The state estimates about 1 million Washington state residents do not have health insurance, or about one in seven people.
Marchand says they've found the bulk of those uninsured will likely get fully-subsidized health care or assistance of some kind.
"We've figured out that probably more than 90 percent of those who are of the 1 million who are currently uninsured, they're going to receive financial help in one way or another, whether it's free or through tax credits."
Washington residents have six months to buy health insurance through the new exchange during the first enrollment period ending in March.
Now go and find a health care facility that will accept it. I’ve heard that lots of doctors in my area will not accept ObamaCare no matter what form it’s in.
America...what a country...”free” healthcare for all!
They will probably get subsidized “medical pot” too.
One thing not in short supply in the NW is people with their hands out.
I suspect that “problem” will be “fixed” with an executive order to two from Caliph Baraq....
We are paying their premiums and they will be competing to see our doctors.
Guess who gets the first appointments, and who does get one because the doctors calendar is full?
What qualifies them for the “free” insurance? Do they just have to be breathing or do they need to verify that they can produce feces as well?
Of course the sample is going to self-select.
Those whose premiums are dramatically increased are not going to sign up whilst those who get it for free WILL sign up.
This is why the left has to implement these programs on EVERYBODY, because only the free loaders will participate otherwise.
I’ve also heard from the folks back home that some doctors will quit or retire rather than be forced to accept that insurance.
May well be.
Insurance is so complex these days the number of small doctor practices is plunging.
Most choose to be affiliated with a massive bureaucracy to deal with the massive govt bureaucracy.
“Free Hot Showers for Everyone, Step This Way!” - H. Himmler
Seriously, I want to know if they get a free platinum plan or a free bronze plan????
Those of us who’ll pay more ought to hold the Kenyan Klown to his promise that Obamacare will save us money and refuse to buy anything more expensive than our current plan.
Is there a way for them to tell the difference since the insurance is still offered through the same companies non-subsidized people get it from?
Art Laffer says its starting in an unrecoverable debt spiral.
Not sure. Most likely some sort of credit card thing would be used and right off the admitting nurse or office staff would know it’s that ObamaCare stuff and refuse it. It’s dealing with the paperwork then arguing the fee and having it turned down where the provider has to resubmit over and over to get reimbursed. The government will set the fee schedule; then too, how long to get reimbursed.
“Fully subsidized” means paid for by the government and/or through increases in the premiums of people who are paying. So Obama was lying about two things: (1) our premiums will not rise; and (2) this will lower health care spending.
Doctors will simply go cash only. You pay them, they give you a copy of what is done and you submit it to your insurance company for reimbursement.
Then, you will learn what they use to go through to get paid.
Wow, paying my health insurance or getting a new crack pipe for Christmas decisions ... decisions.
Maybe a brass urn?
Hmmm. Too many subsidized people would prolly collapse the whole thing, huh?
Because of my insurance the doctor that sees my kids is a doctor that takes any insurance. The trick is to go or call first thing in the morning when he opens. Most of the medicaid types do not get up too early.
more in the wagon than pulling the wagon
I shouldn't have laughed but I could not help it.
I doubt if you’ll be able to find a policy equal to what you have now. If the premiums are the same, the deductibles and co-pays won’t be.
There are two types of people who will be insured under obamacare. There will be those who will ransack a Walmart when they think something is free. They never had insurance because they could never afford it so now they’ll get it for free. I’ll call them “Walmart Plunderers”. And there will be those who pay sky high premiums. Part of their premiums will be used to pay for the insurance for the “Walmart Plunderers”.
Cruz tried to warn the people. Unfortunately, the “people” believe the left wing media and they’ll never admit their
O-man’s plan isn’t wonderful. They’ll even pay higher premiums, higher co-pays and higher deductibles and let relatives be sent home to die because obama meant well and at least he showed he cared about us. They’ll BELIEVE this while being herded into the FEMA camps with all of the “Walmart Plunderers”.
And as everyone knows, Medicaid is fully solvent, has plenty of available doctors looking for new patients, and isn’t a fiscal train wreck. Right?
Those are the doctors I see now at the VA.
Kind of like social security.
That's what I'm thinking. And healthy people can help hasten the collapse by refusing to sign up.
Obamacare is a financial nightmare for us.
My insurance is through Cigna, and they are on the obamacare exchange. That means that my absurd premiums with my 7500.00 yearly deductible is subsidizing the obama slackers and is of NO benefit to me except making me poor with the added risk of bankruptcy if I ever get sick.
I still believe a flat out rejection by all those who have to pay will kill it. I don’t believe they can lock everyone up. Even though I know they’d love to.
You're a genius! yes, I've been wondering what these people who "signed up" for OCare were given/promised for signing up. It's just not believable that one state would have 10000 enrolled and other states had none. unless they were bribed or paid off in some way for signing up.
I will be receiving my new “options” soon, and I am quite sure that it will be another absurd increase. I will be done with it at that point.
Dr. Laurie Roth, a radio show host out of Spokane, is calling for people to refuse to sign up for healthcare through the exchanges:
Hell hath no fury as a lard-assed bureaucrat scorned.
“Hmmm. Too many subsidized people would prolly collapse the whole thing, huh?”
No, they’ll squeeze it out of everyone else. That is why the Supreme Court ruled it was a “tax”.
I bet they are either on welfare, social security,some sort of public assistance or earn lower wages that is the only way you get it for free and some of those that do work for lower wages may just get tax credits.
Here are the rates for a family of five on the WA plan. Bronze and silver are basically high deductible plans.
Bronze $880 a month, deductible $5250 ind/$10500 family, max out of pocket $5250/$10500. You are paying everything until you get to your cap, but you are allowed an Health Savings Account.
Silver 1080 a month. Deductibles $2500/$5000, max out of pocket $4100/8200, you pay 20% after you meet the deductible. Still eligible for an HSA.
Gold 1335 a month (more than my mortgage, taxes and insurance on my last home) Deductibles $1500/3000, out of pocket $4500/$9000. Primary care $10 copay. No HSA.
Does fully subsidized mean just the monthly premium or the deductible also?
AKA the "Free $hit Army" - an Obama constituency to the core, out in force every 4 years; otherwise, nowhere to be found otherwise, unless you look under highway overpasses and in back alleys.
They are not accepting it until you can prove you’ve met your deductible, too.
Great! Even LESS incentive to get off the dole!
Maybe the Obama administration really did believe that young, healthy people who don't want health insurance would rush to buy an overpriced ObamaCare policy because they know their money is needed to pay for free insurance for moochers and illegals.
EBT Card, Communist Party Card, Democrat Party Membership Card, black skin, be a muslim, or illegal alien.
Which is somewhere in the neighborhood of $6500 or more.
A friend of mine told me that her parents live in a town in Oregon with one doctor who will take this crap. One doctor!!!