Skip to comments.Navy's largest destroyer going into water in Maine
Posted on 10/20/2013 7:09:59 PM PDT by Chode
BATH, ME -- After embarrassing troubles with its latest class of surface warships, the Navy is hoping for a winner from a new destroyer that's ready to go into the water. So far, construction of the first-in-class Zumwalt, the largest U.S. Navy destroyer ever built, is on time and on budget, something that's a rarity in new defense programs, officials said. And the Navy believes the ship's big gun, stealthy silhouette and advance features will make it a formidable package.
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Do I understand correctly that they don’t have cruisers of any kind anymore?
The Ospreys of the United States Navy.
Expensive, Vulnerable and Useless.
How did all the other ships in the Navy stay afloat with the gov’t being shut down?
There is a new tiltrotor out there now. Bigger, I think.
I believe your are correct. Cruiser were just small battleships and just as unnecessary for modern warfare.
On time and under budget-pretty standard for Bath Ironworks.
The union/management apprentice training programs are very effective in training new skilled workers. Some of the apprentices can even earn an AA degree from a college in Maine.
The Navy bought the Osprey for the Marine Corp, too.
aka, the Super Monitor.
I was on the USS Jonas Ingram. This ship is nearly 200 feel longer and nearly twice as wide. It isn’t a destroyer. It’s a cruiser. It’s approaching the size of WWII carriers.
The Ticonderoga-class of guided-missile cruisers is a class of warships in the United States Navy, first ordered and authorized in the 1978 fiscal year. The class uses phased-array radar and was originally planned as a class of destroyers. However, the increased combat capability offered by the Aegis combat system and the AN/SPY-1 radar system was used to justify the change of the classification from DDG (guided missile destroyer) to CG (guided-missile cruiser) shortly before the keels were laid down for the Ticonderoga and the Yorktown.
Possible early retirement
Due to Budget Control Act of 2011 requirements to cut the Defense Budget for FY2013 and subsequent years, plans are being considered to decommission some of the Ticonderoga-class cruisers. For the U.S. Defense 2013 Budget Proposal, the U.S. Navy is to decommission seven cruisers early in fiscal years 2013 and 2014.
Because of these retirements, the U.S. Navy is expected to fall short of its requirement for 94 missile defense cruisers and destroyers beginning in FY 2025 and continuing past the end of the 30-year planning period....
It’s a heavy cruiser in all but name.
This littoral ship will probably be used against citizens attempting to smuggle their money out of the country by boat. Off shore bombardment of port cities in response to civil unrest is a potential use. Smuggling in Al Qaeda agents into the US is another possibility.
Did you see this at that site?
Enabling technologies: An open-source, two-seat aircraft
They should name it the “USS Obama”
(Americas Greatest Destroyer)
Cruisers and the new Zumwalt class DDG are not built for surface ship to surface ship warfare, although they are certainly capable of defeating virtually any surface ship in that kind of engagement. They are built for sea control, anti-air, and anti submarine warfare. And their prime reason for existing is protection and support or carrier battlegroups.
Does it fly the fagflag?
With this thing’s displacement greater than many heavy cruisers, imagine what a modern nuclear battleship would be like? Firing rail guns to accurately nail targets at 115 miles away. Using particle beams to burn anything out of the sky that comes within their range. Probably some equally devastating anti-submarine weaponry.
Yea well, what will they do when aliens come to save us, huh?
Would probably not be as expensive as one of the old ones. Wouldn’t need the heavy armor, and not a gazillon tons of ammo. Just pure firepower.
Cruiser Command.. when you can billet an officer to command a Carrier but want them to advance higher than a DDG. You are probably done advancing when you are assigned command of a cruiser.
Will the news cameras be there?
If so, Angus King will throw himself in front of one.
Just like our nation under Zero.
No need to smuggle Al Qaeda goons. Bammy will fly them in and throw a party at the airport VIP lounge.
If it’s that large, it’s not a destroyer. A true destroyer is known by one name only, “tin can”. Destroyers are called “tin cans” for a reason. “Tin can sailors” are proud of their service on destroyers for a reason.
“A destroyer doesn’t roll, it snaps.”
If it’s longer than 170 ft, it’s something other than a destroyer. For over a century, a destroyer’s mission is to carry torpedoes & protect the fleet from enemy submarines.
What’s not to understand?
The skipper is a Rear Admiral. He wears hot pants.
Excuse me! I'm a tin can sailor, spending two years aboard the USS Perkins (DD 877), 1966-68. The Perkins was 391 feet long. It was a World War II vintage ship upgraded to Fram 2 configuration with a DASH helicopter aboard.
My ship went through a typhoon in company with the USS Coral Sea, and believe me we were rocking and rolling and rolling and rolling
yup, all USN ships have grown over time regardless of the nomenclature
I thought antisub warfare was the job of the frigates...
Either way... ALL the ships i the carrier task force main job is to take a missle or torpedo before the carrier does...
Ahh..fram cann....I was on an Adams class.....USS Barney DDG -6
Good to know there is another “suspicious” grumpy out there. I think the same thing of most new weapon systems and their non Christian operators.
Heh, heh, my total Navy experience was landing my Army UH-1H on a Navy floating barge at 0500 in the dark at a place called Nha Be in the Mekong Delta in December 1971. Boy did the Navy have some great chow!
I’m only recollecting what WWII Navy vets told me about their experiences on destroyers; there were lots of them still serving in Vietnam then. I especially liked the stories about crossing the equator where pollywogs became Shellbacks or crossing the Arctic Circle where bluenoses became Polar Bears. The rituals they described were verrrry interesting!
The rail guns should be awesome when they are ready
Roger that. Hyman DD732, Waldron DD-699, English DD-696. Before that in ‘67 Lester DE-1022. Less than a tin can. LOL!
Read that the #2 Zumwalt class will be the USS Michael Monsoor (MOH receipient) and #3 USS lbj. WTF? That’s pretty disgraceful.
So, for almost 2x the cost of a Virginia-class boat, can anyone tell me what this monstrosity can do that a sub CAN’T (besides the stupid f’in gun)??? Besides having the armament of 2+ of the latter (and almost 1/3 more crew)?
“Shore bombardment”? Are you f’in kidding me??? The US Navy’s killing the US Navy. We don’t need no enemy...
And amidships, a 50+ cell VLS battery - for those over-the-horizon satellite and ballistic missile kills plus targets beyond rail gun range.
Probably not, as you describe an honest to God civil war, opposition will not nearly organized enough or large enough to be considered a real civil war.
The Zumwalt class is made to support Marine landings with gunfire (artillery support). Subs can’t do that; the ‘stupid gun’ even lets them double the amount of rounds they can fire in support of the Marines. Also, subs can’t do airspace control (they just can’t mount the radar arrays) nor can they kill seaskimming missiles or aircraft screaming in on a battlegroup.