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US: Racial policy in Calif prison riots breaks law
KCRA ^ | 10/18/2013

Posted on 10/21/2013 3:34:48 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

California is violating the federal Constitution when it punishes prison inmates after a riot based on their race, the U.S. Department of Justice said Friday.

Gangs in California prisons typically are based on race, and riots often pit members of one race against one another or involve inmates of only one race.

After the riots, officers often lock inmates in their cells based on which races were involved to prevent further violence - whether or not those inmates were involved.

The Justice Department said in a court filing that the practice violates the 14th Amendment, which requires equal protection under the law. The opinion is not binding, but is part of an ongoing class-action lawsuit in federal court in Sacramento.

The policy "is not based on any individual analysis of prisoner behavior, but rather on generalized fears of racial violence. Indeed, the policy affects hundreds of prisoners throughout the (prison) system who the state acknowledges have absolutely no gang ties or history of violence," according to the filing signed by the chiefs of the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division.

The state could adopt race-neutral alternatives, the Justice Department said, including locking up specific inmates who it suspects were involved in the fight, or locking down entire housing units where the riot occurred.

It could also do a better job of gathering information in advance on which inmates are involved in gangs or are likely to engage in race-based violence and keep them separated.

Corrections department spokeswoman Terry Thornton said the state's policy is not to base lockdowns "solely on the inmate's race or ethnicity." State law says the department "shall not target a specific racial or ethnic group unless it is necessary and narrowly tailored to further a compelling government interest."

The U.S. Justice Department contends that the policy is too broadly written to pass constitutional muster.

The lawsuit was filed in 2008 by Robert Mitchell after he was locked in his cell following a fight at High Desert State Prison in Susanville. The Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation imposes more than 600 lockdowns in a typical year, at least 200 of which are based on the race of the inmates, said Rebekah Evenson, whose nonprofit Prison Law Office represents Mitchell and other inmates.

No other state has a similar policy she said.

"They lock down people who were not involved in the incident, not involved in the gang and just happen to have the same color skin," she said.

The policy is similar to another California practice that the U.S. Supreme Court found to be discriminatory nearly a decade ago, the practice of segregating inmates by race in their cells and sleeping areas to prevent gang violence.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: corrections; inmates
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1 posted on 10/21/2013 3:34:48 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Guess we need to lock them all up, all the time. Weld the bars shut. When they die, fill them in with concrete. They are never getting out.


2 posted on 10/21/2013 3:40:53 PM PDT by donmeaker (q)
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To: Altura Ct.
The headline is deceptive and should read:

Justice Department Doesn't Like California Law That Inconviniences Minority Felons

3 posted on 10/21/2013 3:41:16 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: donmeaker
Guess we need to lock them all up, all the time. Weld the bars shut. When they die, fill them in with concrete. They are never getting out.

That is a bit harsh. I would weld the bars shut, only allow the porridge for food, and only allow CSPAN2 on the TV (if it works). Of course with the bars welded shut there would be a problem with stinking. Oh well.

4 posted on 10/21/2013 3:44:51 PM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: Altura Ct.
California is violating the federal Constitution... almost as much as the Federal government.
5 posted on 10/21/2013 3:45:03 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ProudFossil

You say harsh like it was a bad thing.


6 posted on 10/21/2013 3:46:29 PM PDT by donmeaker (q)
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To: Altura Ct.

Sherriff Joe please pick up the white courtesy phone.


7 posted on 10/21/2013 3:46:55 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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If you lock them all up then you will have additional aggrieved groups that will get in on the riot next time.


8 posted on 10/21/2013 3:57:59 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: donmeaker
Guess we need to lock them all up, all the time.

In the meantime, I suggest that the Justice Department form a strike team. The team will be composed only of those lawyers involved in this decision.

Next time there is a prison race riot, give each member of the team a briefcase, and send them in to calm things down.

9 posted on 10/21/2013 4:04:43 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Altura Ct.
After the riots, officers often lock inmates in their cells based on which races were involved to prevent further violence - whether or not those inmates were involved.

Actually, it is a pragmatic policy based on reality. It works. So now, in the land of liberalism run amok, political correctness will take effect. It is a great example of Schadenfreude.

10 posted on 10/21/2013 4:05:46 PM PDT by kabar
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Inmates running the asylum.
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!


11 posted on 10/21/2013 4:07:10 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ProudFossil
I would weld the bars shut, only allow the porridge for food, and only allow CSPAN2 on the TV (if it works).

Yes, give pease a chance.

12 posted on 10/21/2013 4:09:42 PM PDT by Ken H (First rule of gun safety - have a gun)
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Really? California penal system has come to this? Ask any Warden why they lock down the particular race/ethnic group that starts a riot. It's not rocket surgery.

Everyone knows that prisons create their own racial divides. You either join your own kind or get punked by every one. That's the hierachy of prison and in most jails.

I don't care if blacks, hispanics, white supremacists, or the growing muslim extremists start the altercation. If it's shown to be one of those groups, yes, lock them all down. There are NO individuals in max prisons. Tough shit.

13 posted on 10/21/2013 4:12:25 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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Sorry, its a fact. You’re in a gang in prison whether you’re naturally disposed that way or not.

I believe if they didn’t sometimes do this things would be totally unmanageable.

In the jungle thing get really REALLY real in a hurry.


14 posted on 10/21/2013 4:17:37 PM PDT by gaijin
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"The Justice Department said in a court filing that the practice violates the 14th Amendment, which requires equal protection under the law."

Really? Seriously? Apparently, Obambi's exclusion of so many under the ACA (Obamacare) doesn't play by the same rules.

I'm waiting for January 1, 2014 when individuals will have standing to sue all the way to the Supreme Court about "equal protection under the law". I can't even see some of the more liberal Justices making excuses, except for the old fart Gingsburg. As stupid as Roberts was with his "tax rather than penalty" ruling, I don't see him buying into this.

Sorry to get off topic.

15 posted on 10/21/2013 4:20:54 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: Altura Ct.

I think they should start correcting obvious bigotry at a more fundamental level. You will note that in almost all cities which have a Sub-Saharan African American population of more than 25%, have Sub-Saharan African American students ratios which exceed 50%....obvious segregation is working.
THE SOLUTION:
force all school districts in the surrounding city area to bus the children to the segregated cities and the cities to bus their Sub-Saharan African American students to the White suburbs until a proper equilibrium is reached.
Of course no governmental employee, especially judges should have their children or grandchildren attend other than non-segregated schools. AND OBVIOUSLY NO ALLOWANCE SHOULD BE GIVEN FOR THE GRADES AND THE PROFICIENCY OF THE SCHOOLS OR THE STUDENTS as that would be racist.


16 posted on 10/21/2013 4:36:51 PM PDT by BilLies ("Will none rid me of this lying bastard ?")
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Turn the criminals loose and lock up the taxpayers. Its about the only place they’ll be safe in California anyway, in prison.3 hots, a cot, tv, and free medical. After a time the gangs will kill one another off and it will be safe to go back out into the sunshine again./sarc


17 posted on 10/21/2013 4:42:29 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Ken H
I would weld the bars shut, only allow the porridge for food, and only allow CSPAN2 on the TV (if it works). Yes, give pease a chance.

Please clarify. Is that peas as in Peas Porridge Hot or as in what liquid goes down the toilet? Thank you.

18 posted on 10/21/2013 4:42:38 PM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: Altura Ct.
Social justice where criminals of color and ethnic backgrounds are not to blame for thier incarceration therefore they should be allowed to leave when they feel like it
19 posted on 10/21/2013 4:52:52 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: donmeaker

1. Why stop the riots? Let them have at it. I have seen films of some of these riots in California. No way in he** would I risk my life to save the life on any of those involved in the riot.
2. If we are going to stop the riots and have a lock down; I propose we lock one black and one white in each cell, or one black/one hispanic, or one white/one hispanic in each cell. Last one standing in the cell is guilty of something, be it murder, attempted murder, or assault. Heck, we might even be able to get the last one standing for a civil rights violation.
Sorry folks, just tired of watching the courts give more of the taxpayers money and rights away to those who don’t deserve them as evidenced by their past actions.


20 posted on 10/21/2013 4:54:12 PM PDT by rustyboots
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