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"No Future" For Cessna Skycatcher: CEO Scott Ernest
AVweb ^ | October 22, 2013 | Glenn Pew

Posted on 10/22/2013 4:26:49 PM PDT by taildragger

Cessna CEO Scott Ernest told aviation media at NBAA 2013 in Las Vegas the company's made-in-China S-LSA Skycatcher has "no future" but he didn't have much to say about it other than that.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; bhoeconomy; cessna; generalaviation; lsacategorycessna; manufacturing; skycather
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To: tcrlaf

I first saw a Smart-type car in Paris in 2004, parked on a side street near Gare du Norde. It had been backed up to the curb due to lack of space, and didn’t extend any farther into the street than the normal-sized (yet small) cars on either side.

Still got a parking ticket tho, lol


41 posted on 10/23/2013 4:34:58 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: CodeToad

The whole point of using the Driver’s License criteria is the logic that says that if you are medically safe to drive a vehicle weighing 3,000 to 26,000 lbs and carrying up to 15 people while closing head on with other vehicles at a combined speed of 120 mph and passing within 6 feet of each other, then you are probably safe to pilot yourself and one other person in an aircraft weighing no more that 1320 lbs and traveling at 120 kts.

If you have a heart attack while driving a full sized van with 10 or more pax on a two lane road with other traffic then you are far more dangerous than having that same heart attack while tooling around the patch in a J-3.

You said that “we had to turn him in...”. Who is we? IOW, from what frame of reference are you addressing this issue? Medical examiner?, Flight instructor?

Since I’ve asked, just to be fair, I hold a Comm, SEL, Rotorcraft-Helicopter and Instrument-Airplane ticket. I also have a US Navy Fixed Wing & Helicopter Instrument Rating. I also had a triple bypass 10 years ago, after which my cardiologist cleared me to return to work, “chopping wood, digging ditches and everything”.

While this is obviously NOT the same as passing an FAA Second Class Medical it does indicate that I was capable of resuming normal life, including driving the above mentioned vehicles.

Yes, there are a few cheaters using the Sport Pilot designation. There are also cheaters flying Bonanzas, driving while drunk, half asleep or texting. However, one assumption of the Sport Pilot rating is that most pilots are neither suicidal nor homicidal. That “...either a 3rd class FAA medical certificate or a current and valid U.S. driver’s license (serves) as evidence of medical eligibility (provided the individual’s most recent application for an FAA medical certificate was not denied, revoked, suspended or withdrawn).”


42 posted on 10/23/2013 6:11:54 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: Errant
The two things I want to be "Made in America" and NOT in China, my food and my aircraft engine. :-)

May I add any metals such as 4130 for a steel tube homebuilt fuselage or a roll cage for a race car.

43 posted on 10/23/2013 7:31:09 AM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: BwanaNdege

You sound like someone using excuses to cheat as well. If you lost your FAA medical then cannot claim to be medically fit using a driver’s license.


44 posted on 10/23/2013 9:07:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: BwanaNdege

“You said that “we had to turn him in...”. Who is we? IOW, from what frame of reference are you addressing this issue? Medical examiner?, Flight instructor?”

What does that matter? Are you simply trying to find who might report your abuses?


45 posted on 10/23/2013 9:08:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: taildragger

Yup, and bearings used in critical devices like medical appliances, nuclear power, and etc.


46 posted on 10/23/2013 10:04:21 AM PDT by Errant
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To: CodeToad
You sound like someone using excuses to cheat as well. If you lost your FAA medical then cannot claim to be medically fit using a driver’s license.

I have NOT lost my medical and would NEVER cheat.

I am simply trying to have a discussion about the rationale behind the Sport Pilot certificate. At the moment I feel like the guy who asked the fish, "How's the water", to which the fish replied, "What water?"

You seemed to be immersed in the ocean of "All Sport Pilots are cheaters".

I asked about your background in order to better understand your frame of reference. We appear to be looking at the Sport Pilot medical situation from completely different viewpoints.

I no longer fly, primarily due to financial considerations. If I were to fly using the Sport Pilot designation I would meet the letter and the spirit of the law. I am legal & safe to drive automobiles, including pulling a trailer up to 10,000lbs or a Combined Gross Weight of 26,000lbs. Ergo, I am Safe & Legal to fly as a Sport Pilot. Rod Machado, as always, gives a succinct summation:

"First, a sport pilot license doesn't require that you have an FAA issued third-class medical certificate. It only requires that you have a valid U.S.drivers license without having an official denial or revocation of an FAA medical certificate on file with the FAA. This means if you have a drivers license then the FAA considers you medically qualified to fly as a sport pilot in a sport airplane." Why Sport vs. Private Pilot?

I would never drive or fly when I am unsafe. Does my having had a heart bypass make me an unsafe driver? Not according to the several cardiologists by whom I have been treated.

47 posted on 10/23/2013 2:33:45 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: BwanaNdege

You claim to be a pilot yet you equate driving with flying?

The entire idea of a Sport class is to get around the medical. Third class medicals are a cinch to get. Machado is a giving bad legal advice. He fails to mention that if you know of a reason that you might fail a third class medical you also have reason to know that you cannot fly otherwise.

The idea is that when a pilot knows they will no longer meet requirements they simply move to Sport and lie about their condition. Why is it lying? Because of this little regulation:

§ 61.53 Prohibition on operations during medical deficiency.

(a) Operations that require a medical certificate. Except as provided for in paragraph (b) of this section, a person who holds a current medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter shall not act as pilot in command, or in any other capacity as a required pilot flight crewmember, while that person:

(1) Knows or has reason to know of any medical condition that would make the person unable to meet the requirements for the medical certificate necessary for the pilot operation; or

(2) Is taking medication or receiving other treatment for a medical condition that results in the person being unable to meet the requirements for the medical certificate necessary for the pilot operation.

(b) Operations that do not require a medical certificate. For operations provided for in §61.23(b) of this part, a person shall not act as pilot in command, or in any other capacity as a required pilot flight crewmember, while that person knows or has reason to know of any medical condition that would make the person unable to operate the aircraft in a safe manner.

(c) Operations requiring a medical certificate or a U.S. driver’s license. For operations provided for in §61.23(c), a person must meet the provisions of—

(1) Paragraph (a) of this section if that person holds a valid medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter and does not hold a current and valid U.S. driver’s license.

(2) Paragraph (b) of this section if that person holds a current and valid U.S. driver’s license.


48 posted on 10/23/2013 3:56:18 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Sirius Lee

That painjob doesn’t help at all.

Kind of an ugly airplane.

I’ll wait to see what Van’s comes out with for LSA (if they are still working on the project)


49 posted on 10/24/2013 3:07:33 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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