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Obama: Shutdown exposed clash of political visions
Associated Press ^ | Oct. 26, 2013 12:07 AM EDT | Josh Lederman

Posted on 10/25/2013 9:39:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Regrouping with Democrats after a bitter budget fight, President Barack Obama on Friday cast the recent spending-and-debt standoff with Congress as “a symptom of a larger challenge” but one offering Democrats the chance to show voters the virtues of their vision for government ahead of the 2014 midterm elections. …

“The shutdown was about more than just health care,” Obama said. “It was about a contrast of visions, about what our obligations are to each other as fellow citizens. And we’ve got the better side of that argument.” …

… Obama is weighed down by the calamitous debut of the website for new insurance exchanges, raising the prospect that Obama’s health care law will be more of a liability than an asset in 2014 even for Democrats who supported the law. Obama made no mention of the website or its ongoing issues in his remarks to donors Friday. …

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; collectivism; healthcaregovwebsite; liberalagenda; obama; obamacare; partialshutdown; shutdown; zerocare

1 posted on 10/25/2013 9:39:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

p o s


2 posted on 10/25/2013 9:45:26 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Olog-hai

did he say:

“our obligations are to each other as fellow citizens”

our obligations are not to steal.... kill... nor destroy..BARRY!


3 posted on 10/25/2013 9:47:05 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Olog-hai

The shutdown revealed the naked emperor and he is more proud than embarrassed.


4 posted on 10/25/2013 10:24:50 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Olog-hai

“The shutdown was about more than just health care,” Obama said. “It was about a contrast of visions, about what our obligations are to each other as fellow citizens. And we’ve got the better side of that argument.” …

Stuff it, butt-boy!


5 posted on 10/25/2013 10:29:53 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: Olog-hai
“It was about a contrast of visions, about what our obligations are to each other as fellow citizens. And we’ve got the better side of that argument.”

If Obama cared about keeping his Oath, we would have the better side of the argument. Sadly, decent Americans are constrained by an overzealous adherence to ethics even when we see our opponents failing to comply with the basic rules of human decency that are assumed by our ethics. Small government conservatives are absolutely right on what government should be doing, and we would win if Obama kept his word to "faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Unfortunately, Obama's word is worth as little as we expected. Otherwise, he would limit the government's actions to the Enumerated Powers and nothing else:

To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises,

to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation over Washington DC, and to exercise like Authority over . . . Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

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We need to start rolling back the federal behemoth, an area where even Ronald Reagan fell short. We need to eliminate the Department of Education, without transferring its functions elsewhere or even preserving its one useful role as an information clearinghouse. We need to eliminate at least 90% of HHS, HUD, Homeland Security, Energy, Agriculture, Labor, EPA, SBA, and "The Corporation for National and Community Service" with all of their regulations, starting with the rules implemented under enabling legislation and then continuing to the repeal of laws outside the scope of the Enumerated Powers.

We need to cut back the military at least to a level where they don't have pork programs that the service chiefs don't want. Essentially we need to start by cutting a third of our FedGov, and then continue looking for more places to cut, rather than just slowing the rate of growth and calling that a win. We can't win a war for freedom with a strategy of merely holding the line when we have the advantage.

6 posted on 10/26/2013 4:26:10 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Olog-hai

The Shut-Down is ancient history thanks to the ObamaCare circus.


7 posted on 10/26/2013 5:08:56 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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“It was about a contrast of visions, about what our obligations are to each other as fellow citizens. And we’ve got the better side of that argument.” …

He has a welfare parasite view of what his supporters are owed by responsible people; he only has the better side of that argument when viewed from the parasites’ point of view. He posed as an adult to get elected twice; now that he won’t face re-election we see the true welfare turd emerge.


8 posted on 10/26/2013 11:24:56 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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The rats are absolutely beside themselves that the “Republican government shutdown” (remember that?) has been shuffled off to oblivion thanks to the ongoing debacle that is the Mengelecare rollout. The rats are doing everything they can to swing the conversation back to the “shutdown” their newsrooms worked so hard to try to convince people was a serious matter.

But the rats are fighting an uphill battle - - the shutdown is “old news”.


9 posted on 10/26/2013 11:31:36 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Wasn’t that a “partial shutdown”? Never mind the public-alienating orders from the top to all the White House agencies telling them to shut open-air monuments contrary to the law.


10 posted on 10/26/2013 11:36:01 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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Wasn’t that a “partial shutdown”?

Sure. Only 17% of federal government functions were "shut down" - - you know, the "non-essential" functions. And all those "non-essential" government employees knew it was a paid vacation for them anyway. I've already seen a few stories of those "non-essential" employees laughing at their "essential" counterparts who had to keep working, and then even complaining that the "shutdown" ended too quickly - - they wanted more paid vacation.

11 posted on 10/26/2013 12:00:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I am gonna try to explain. Obama is far left. No matter what people think, he is. People on the right rightfully know we need to veer to the far right in order to achieve a semblance of order.

The GOP in DC is totally unable to see what the grassroots see. The DC elites are unable to understand where we come from.

Perhaps they are all on the same side. I tend to think so. So, we have to support the far right.

Simple as that. It really is mathematical.


12 posted on 10/26/2013 12:10:34 PM PDT by dforest
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