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To: Jacquerie

Jacquerie, I know that you strongly believe that an Art. V. Convention is the only way to save the nation, and that you’re passionate about that belief.

I’m equally as passionate that an Art. V will be a disaster.

If a convention is called, the left isn’t going to quake in their boots that we’re going to take back the government. No. They’re going to lick their lips that they FINALLY have a mechanism to cram down the 2nd Amendment.

And.

They will break every rule and throw aside every protection you believe exists to do so.

The left plays to win, at all cost. They look at cheating to do so as a badge of honor, an indication of just how far they’re willing to go for their beliefs.

Our side? Our side pushes to promote our agenda only and just so far enough so as not to induce too terribly much media scorn. Can’t get blackballed from the beltway party list, don’t you know.

You speak of no precedent for Congress to intervene. That’s the point, there’s no precedent for any of it. When Congress makes up their own role (an invasive one) and all three branches of fedgov signs off, then what?

If we get an Art. V, they will bastardize the Constitution, trash the 2nd Amendment (and 9th and 10th, and more), and dare you to oppose this new “law of the land”.

Then what will you do? I’ve said this before: you won’t get liberty amendments, you’ll get liberal ones. And then. You’ll get a civil war.


25 posted on 10/30/2013 11:44:59 AM PDT by ziravan (Choose Sides.)
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To: ziravan

I’ve never promised an Article V convention would fix America’s problems. It is a lifeboat, and lifeboats are sorry replacements for the ship that was lost.

Little discussed at FR is that on October 16th, for all practical purposes, congress relinquished its last effective power, the power of the purse to Obama.

Obama can rule by fiat. The constitution’s limits are gone. But, Article V acknowledges the power of the sovereign people to reclaim what is theirs.

The senate is Obama’s bitch and the house is not far behind. There are patriots in both houses, but in the aggregate, the careful framework of our framers is gone.

We, the sovereign people have the constitutional means to reverse course. There is no guarantee; we may be too far gone.

Consider what outrage could possibly prod most Americans to call for an Article V convention. Obama rules by fiat, and that is not enough. Would he have to remain in office past 2016?

Having read just a little about the brutality of revolutions, including our own, I would rather risk an Article V convention long before we are (if not already) cornered without other than violent options.

Whatever comes out of a convention, three fourths of the states must ratify. There is no guarantee of the output of the convention nor what the states will do. It could be awful.

Still, history will not look kindly on a people who had the peaceful means to restore republican liberty and gaffed it off.

As for violence, forget it. We aren’t talking flintlock v. flintlock. Obama and his DHS monkeys have a monopoly on the big stuff and would appreciate the opportunity to thin the conservative herd.


44 posted on 10/30/2013 12:19:49 PM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: ziravan

YOU ARE MISTAKEN

http://conventionofstates.com/media/prof-rob-natelson-speaks-alec-full-speech


67 posted on 10/30/2013 2:36:59 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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