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Obama Officials In 2010: 93 Million Will Be Unable To Keep Plans Under Obamacare (shortened)
Forbes ^ | Oct 31, 2013 | Avik Roy

Posted on 10/31/2013 10:51:13 PM PDT by Ray76

Full Title: Obama Officials In 2010: 93 Million Americans Will Be Unable To Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare

Obama administration knew that Obamacare would disrupt private plans

Section 1251 of the Affordable Care Act contains what’s called a “grandfather” provision that, in theory, allows people to keep their existing plans if they like them. But subsequent regulations from the Obama administration interpreted that provision so narrowly as to prevent most plans from gaining this protection.

“The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013,” wrote the administration on page 34,552 of the [Federal] Register. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and become illegal. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americans—more than half the population—was covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013.

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"If you like your plan you can keep it. Period. If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. Period." Obama lied for years.
1 posted on 10/31/2013 10:51:14 PM PDT by Ray76
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shit happens obama lyed


2 posted on 10/31/2013 10:55:38 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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“The Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013,” wrote the administration on page 34,552 of the [Federal] Register. All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and become illegal. According to the Congressional Budget Office, 156 million Americans—more than half the population—was covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2013.”

Not only that, the employer only has to pay a penalty of only $2,000/employee vs. the cost of insurance/employee. Liar in Chief could not design a more disruptive health care law.

3 posted on 10/31/2013 10:55:38 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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Anybody that says they didnt know Obamacare was created for becoming a one payer system needs to be SLAPPED and eyes poked..

They are lying.. or stupid PLUS they are lying..


4 posted on 10/31/2013 11:06:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Chgogal
The article links to the Federal Register.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2010-06-17/pdf/2010-14488.pdf

The smoking gun is on pages 16 & 17 in the PDF (Federal Register pages 34552 - 34553). They knew full well that at least half would have policies canceled. They knew that you would not be able to keep your plan or your doctor. Yet they repeatedly and emphatically lied for 2-3 years.

Obama lied. Period.

Bernie Goldberg has a couple of good articles on this lying.

http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/fraud-inducement-president-obama/

http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/why-would-obama-want-people-to-keep-their-old-plans/

5 posted on 10/31/2013 11:07:49 PM PDT by Ray76
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It occurred to me that a possible strategy would be , for anyone receiving a previously held cancellation notice from a health insurance provider , should immediately tell them “ No Way! “ “You are NOT cancelling my policy , as I have the word of the President of the United States that if I like my policy I CAN keep it “ Stand on that . Publicize that ! Require DoJ to defend each and every cancellation notice refusal . Just say “ No ! “
Visibly tie up every cancellation letters with law suits , based on the exact words of the President. Force them not to cancel you , or face major damages and claims .


6 posted on 10/31/2013 11:10:24 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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All in all, more than half of employer-sponsored plans will lose their “grandfather status” and become illegal.

Wow! This is very bad.

7 posted on 10/31/2013 11:12:38 PM PDT by rawhide
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interesting note the dumb f is on record

but then agin this is amerika


8 posted on 10/31/2013 11:17:05 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Ray76

Impeach!


9 posted on 10/31/2013 11:21:28 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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yep

he IS on record ( over & over & over)

force the issue , make um squirm


10 posted on 10/31/2013 11:21:31 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Chgogal

require mass disobedience.


11 posted on 10/31/2013 11:27:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Ray76

12 posted on 10/31/2013 11:30:31 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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FANTASTIC graphic!!


13 posted on 10/31/2013 11:32:45 PM PDT by nutmeg (I don't always speak to Obama voters. But when I do, I order fries...)
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The Dems have suicidally followed Obama into a political dead end of sheer madness.


14 posted on 10/31/2013 11:36:02 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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The idea of a government-run ‘exchange’ was bogus from the start. And, we in part have Mitt Romney to thank for it.


15 posted on 10/31/2013 11:42:45 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Ray76
This whole ObamaCare law was written to funnel people into the exchanges and to effectively destroy the insurance industry. Obama lied to people to get their confidence and support for this bill, but like all charlatans, he lied for the "greater good" of socialism and establishing his legacy. At no time was this ever about helping people get better medical care. It is a scam and a con game to fool people into doing something they wouldn't do otherwise and that is to give up control of their own healthcare and place it in the hands of big government. This law was about the liberals cementing their life-long dreams of nationalized healthcare and that is why I think this mess was designed to collapse into chaos so they can force single payer upon us. It is has always been about leading the sheeple to slaughter.  photo OManBoyCriedWolfTooMany_zps8d2a2241.jpg
16 posted on 11/01/2013 12:15:23 AM PDT by HotHunt
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I would not want to be under Romneycare, but it is nothing like Obamacare. The DEMS have been pushing for socialized medicine long before Mass got their stinkin’ plan. Typical argument by liberals when they can’t justify Obamacare is to say “Romney did the same thing.” Not ONE Republican voted for this monstrosity ! This should be stressed in every GOP criticism.


17 posted on 11/01/2013 12:54:32 AM PDT by RightLady
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Romneycare needlessly made the health insurance ‘marketplace’ a government-run exchange. That paved the way for Obamacare, which is essentially Romneycare at the federal level, with a few misery bells attached.

It is by running so many people through Obamacare exchanges that the fed is gaining the control and information to simply nationalize healthcare. It is also the excuse they have for the biggest Democrat voter enrollment program in history (going on now).

Romney made a big show when he was guv of his supposedly big brain coming up with this brilliant solution. But of course it wasn’t his solution at all. It was the brainchild of healthcare reform ‘specialists’ who were, indeed, aiming for socialized medicine, with these exchanges as a first step.


18 posted on 11/01/2013 1:36:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Obama didn’t know this until 2 weeks from now. That’s just before he learned about NSA spying. Neither of these things will add a dime to the debt.


19 posted on 11/01/2013 2:04:03 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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ZERO lied Grandap's gona die. . . .
I am Grandpa. . . .
20 posted on 11/01/2013 2:46:08 AM PDT by DeaconRed (ZERO: The Flim Flam Boy. NOT A MAN.)
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