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Sorry Obama - It never pays out to spy and steal among those who thought that they were your friends. America is starting to pay a high price for such cretinism.

Snowden has a good chance to get asylum and a new identity somewhere in western Europe and the US have a good chance to loose all of their spy bases on the old continent (except of the British island of course). Furthermore it is quite probable that the Status of Forces Agreement in Germany and elsewhere will be renegotiated. Since most Germans do not see any need for a further deployment of foreign troops the outcome could be the end of the US forces in Germany in the long term. The discussion about it just started and will take its time.

From my European point of view I have the impression, that most Americans do not understand how substancial the damage is. Western Europe lost its trust in the US completely.

Regards from the old continent.

1 posted on 11/01/2013 4:50:32 AM PDT by European Guest
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To: European Guest

Agreed. I think it is time for Europe to be Europe.

Obama is a fool and his job was to diminish the country and he surely did.


2 posted on 11/01/2013 4:53:02 AM PDT by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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-—— America is starting to pay a high price——

No, not really. There is a difference between Obama and America.

What has happened is that the leaders of the world have reached consensus that Barack Obama is unworthy of their respect as an international player. He is being told that he has been dropped from the list of players.

America on the other hand is still America and relations continue.


3 posted on 11/01/2013 4:57:44 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: European Guest

Perhaps Snowden is saving his Obama file for last...........


5 posted on 11/01/2013 5:19:38 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Actually, this fits Obama’s agenda:

ALIENATE YOUR FRIENDS AND EMBOLDEN YOUR ENEMIES.

Obama wants to take down America. He’s doing a good job. Why do people judge Obama against American Values: he has none. He’s not an American. He’s a Communist.


7 posted on 11/01/2013 5:27:58 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: European Guest
From my European point of view I have the impression, that most Americans do not understand how substancial the damage is.

I for one value the words of a "man on the street" in the old country. Thanks for posting.

10 posted on 11/01/2013 5:41:43 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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I agree with your view. I’m in Italy for the last 2 weeks and over the last 4-5 days this is the story. People on the ground do ask me about this at all. I wish they would.


15 posted on 11/01/2013 6:05:48 AM PDT by magua
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Obama is a lazy liar, whose mother was a whore.
How can anyone be surprised by the downward trajectory of this country?


16 posted on 11/01/2013 6:16:32 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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