Ancient Cyprus grove found in ~60 feet of water.
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=2107&category=Environment
Point out the above story to your “progressive” friends, then ask: “at what level are the oceans SUPPOSED to be?”
(I actually had one reply: “where they are NOW!”)
These same progressives believe in Gaia where the Earth is a living thing. As a living thing it is constantly moving and changing yet they say that we cause that movement and change and want us to stop it. Isn’t there a word for thought processes that counter each other?
To be progressive one must be devoid of truth and GOD.