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Meet Paul Ryan 2.0
The National Journal ^ | 10-31-13 | Tim Alberta

Posted on 11/02/2013 12:21:04 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

This was shaping up to be Paul Ryan's moment.

With the Republican Party reeling from a government shutdown and a near disaster over the debt limit, the chairman of the House Budget Committee was tasked with leading the GOP in a six-week bicameral budget conference. Republicans, who demanded these talks in exchange for a short-term budget resolution, were expected to pursue big-picture negotiations over America's long-term fiscal challenges.

But that's not going to happen. Since being appointed as the Republican negotiating chief two weeks ago, Ryan has endeavored to lower public expectations for the committee, saying he hopes to pursue small, targeted policy fixes rather than broad, sweeping reforms.

"We don't want to set expectations that aren't going to be achieved. That's not helpful," Ryan told National Journal Daily on the eve of negotiations.

Ryan added: "There won't be a grand bargain. So we shouldn't suggest that there will be."

Such modesty of purpose sounds peculiar coming from a politician who, after Republicans regained the House majority in 2011, was celebrated by conservatives as America's fiscal messiah. When Ryan released a budget that year, he described it as "the new House majority's answer to history's call."

Indeed, Ryan viewed his role in momentous context. Upon taking the Budget Committee gavel in 2011, he envisioned a great fiscal settlement, built upon sweeping reforms to America's entitlement system. But for nearly three years thereafter, Washington failed to reach a comprehensive agreement, with both sides balking on concessions and reverting to finger-pointing that eroded trust and emptied the Capitol's already-diminished reservoir of goodwill.

Of course, Ryan was no innocent.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 113th; budget; compromise; congress; negotiation; paulryan
This article appears in the November 1, 2013, edition of NJ Daily as Paul Ryan Wanted to Change Washington—But Washington Changed Him.
1 posted on 11/02/2013 12:21:05 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Fair analysis of Paul Ryan’s change of direction.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


2 posted on 11/02/2013 12:22:26 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Raise your hand if you are over Paul Ryan.


3 posted on 11/02/2013 12:23:56 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They just can’t resist the spending power. It’s all about them come hell or high water


4 posted on 11/02/2013 12:24:30 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

isn’t he the idiot that says we need 50 jillion new workers to fill all the jobs openings in the United States....yeah I think it’s him ...

he’s a POS that made a fool out of me and a lot of other people ....FUPR


5 posted on 11/02/2013 12:26:26 PM PDT by thestob ( Paul Ryan is determined to destroy our country)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Like Rubio i am all done with Paul Ryan.


6 posted on 11/02/2013 12:27:45 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I wish he’d go away.


7 posted on 11/02/2013 12:28:19 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

A pathetic flop as a candidate, a Republican and a human being.


8 posted on 11/02/2013 12:29:58 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Liberal crossfit f*got...


9 posted on 11/02/2013 12:31:38 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"There won't be a grand bargain. So we shouldn't suggest that there will be."

No long touchdown passes, just blocking and tackling.

10 posted on 11/02/2013 12:40:27 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I think I get even more disgusted with Paul Ryan than I do with Romney (and I hate Romney’s guts). Probably because of the sheer duplicity involved in selling Ryan as the true-blue conservative counterbalance to Romney on the 2012 ticket. Turned out a total snow-job. Especially when just a few months later, Ryan is out supporting homo adoptions and pushing amnesty big-time, standing on stage right alongside that loathesome Guiterrez in selling it.

As if I hadn’t already grown intensely distrustful of the entire GOP after the grotesque backstabbing of Palin, then the nomination of a Massachusetts liberal... it gets topped off by this year’s blatant betrayals by Rubio and Ryan.

Been an exclusively Republican voter all my life, but I’ve pretty much had it. I’m hardly joking when I say the first mental imagery that comes to my mind in regards to the GOP nowadays is no longer Ronald Reagan, but rather, a knife lodged in a human backside.


11 posted on 11/02/2013 12:43:01 PM PDT by greene66
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To: afraidfortherepublic

sorry, D.C. doesn’t make you a central planner. that’s in you from the beginning. it’s that insane compulsion to fix the problems only you know how to fix in the clueless, unwashed masses, er, that is, the people. you just got to “help out” in the biggest way you can imagine.

and, btw, you just can’t become a trusted member of the GOPe without it.


12 posted on 11/02/2013 12:58:19 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Once Ryan showed his true colors as a pure RINO, I was done with him forever.


13 posted on 11/02/2013 1:00:12 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

That happened way before this hear. But nobody wanted to be reminded that he was always a big government statist in 2012. Anyone just seeing that now hasn’t been paying attention for a long time.


14 posted on 11/02/2013 1:05:27 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

dittos, I keep getting fundraising emails fro him and the replies I send would singe the devils hair. I almost hope he doesn’t stop sending them because its a tiny bit therapeutic to tell him FU even though I know he doesn’t read them.


15 posted on 11/02/2013 1:09:58 PM PDT by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Don’t RINO me, bro.


16 posted on 11/02/2013 1:13:02 PM PDT by Gator113 ( Cruz, Palin and Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“There won’t be a grand bargain. So we shouldn’t suggest that there will be.”

Because to Ryan and other members of the GOPe Defeatist Caucus, there’s NEVER a right time to fight for anything in DC.


17 posted on 11/02/2013 1:19:47 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Lost me when he joined the McCain grahamnesty backstabbers.


18 posted on 11/02/2013 1:21:04 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

paul ryan, dead to me.


19 posted on 11/02/2013 1:36:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Sad but true. He held such promise. He seemed so principled, but if he folded as easily as he did, then apparently not.


20 posted on 11/02/2013 1:37:32 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I guess Romney knew the Paul Ryan I didn’t know or imagine.


21 posted on 11/02/2013 1:42:52 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Both my hands are raised, GG2. And I’ll bet Paul Ryan, from my home state, loses his race next time. Neither his GOP-E friends or his hometown of Janesville won’t even pull him across the finish line.
I was done with him when he and Mittens handed out lousy sub sandwiches to bribe voters two blocks from Santorum’s campaign office. Rick was going to win the state until Reince and Co. decided it was going to be We the Republican Party rather than We the People.
No more RINOS. God Bless Mark Levin for being the only true conservative talk show host carrying the message.
And God Bless the state of Texas for giving us Ted Cruz and the state of Alaska for Sarah Palin.


22 posted on 11/02/2013 1:50:21 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ( Cuccinelli for Governor,, CALL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY IN VA..and make sure Terry McAwful LOSES!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

bleeech I wasn’t that thrilled with him in 2012. Am out right disgusted with him at this point


23 posted on 11/02/2013 2:09:41 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Pro amnesty and outed RINO. He even lost a debate with the doltish Biden. No thanks. Paul Ryan 2.0 is worse than 1.0.


24 posted on 11/02/2013 2:11:54 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

A year ago, I wanted Paul Ryan to be president.

Now, I couldn’t care less if he loses re-election to the House next November. Eff him.


25 posted on 11/02/2013 2:14:41 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Way over. He may as well settle in to permanent obscurity.


26 posted on 11/02/2013 2:44:34 PM PDT by AdaGray (Primary Them All)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Once Ryan showed his true colors as a pure RINO, I was done with him forever.

Same here. The first hint Lyin' Ryan gave me of his RINOness was when he and Slick Willy were caught on a hot mic talking. Nothing outrageous was said, I think der Slickster invited Ryan to meet to discuss his budget plan, but the optics gave me the creeps.

When Ryan couldn't even hold his own with Crazy Joe Biden, I pretty much gave up on him. Now that he's pushing his amnesty cr@p, I'm done.

27 posted on 11/02/2013 2:49:11 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

There was once a time when I swooned over those baby blues.
Alas.... It is gone. All gone.


28 posted on 11/02/2013 2:58:54 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Jane Long

Rino indeed!! Amnesty! So smart only Biden can out-think him!

What a guy! What I don’t like about him is his move to the left. Guess he wants to play ball with the elites. Easy to scrap principles then.

When I see him on TV, I do the same thing I do when I see Bonner, Rubio, Jeb and Hoar-hey Bush, Rove, etc. — cringe, hit the channel changer, and go over to the American Pickers show.


29 posted on 11/02/2013 3:05:20 PM PDT by Memphis Moe
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Absurd. Paul Ryan’s a smart guy and a good guy to have in our camp. The reality is we hold a single branch and don’t have the other 2/3s. Incremental change is good, very good. Voters like it and it gives the appearance of smooth transition and competence.

Even when we regain the Senate we will still have to negotiate to get around an Obama veto. Small incremental steps, compounding annually.

Targeted fixes with broad support on our side and some renegade Dems is better for the country in the long run. Once Obama’s out, then we can run faster. The people want consistency, level headedness, and a reasonable pace of reform.


30 posted on 11/02/2013 4:08:49 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Paul Ryan is an amnesty whore


31 posted on 11/02/2013 5:40:37 PM PDT by thestob ( Paul Ryan is determined to destroy our country)
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To: mowowie

Yup. I have a zero tolerance policy now that we are in the midst of the revolution. Zero tolerance for Romanov style appeasers.


32 posted on 11/02/2013 5:44:35 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: thestob

We do need some kind of immigration reform, at least one that secures the border and makes legal immigration easier while punishing illegal immigration.

You do realize that we have de facto amnesty right now, no?


33 posted on 11/02/2013 6:47:36 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

did you get that talking point by fax or email?


34 posted on 11/02/2013 6:58:56 PM PDT by thestob ( Paul Ryan is determined to destroy our country)
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To: thestob

Which point, my dear stob?


35 posted on 11/02/2013 7:04:23 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Even the elect will be deceived, IF that were possible.

He is a liar. Most of THEM are.

It’s getting really hard to tell the difference.


36 posted on 11/02/2013 7:48:20 PM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Been over Ryan for a while, but don’t discount the truth of his statements and lose out on other opportunities because you don’t like the rest of him. The way the Dims got us to where we were was in thousands of baby steps that finally built the huge snowball that is taking us down the hill of destruction. Trying to do something huge (like ObamaCare) would likely have similar results - if you don’t have an intricate phasing plan, you will step on so many toes that all support will be lost (except for the most rabid believers) just as many Zero supporters are now ruing reality.


37 posted on 11/03/2013 3:09:15 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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