Posted on 11/08/2013 9:03:35 AM PST by SoConPubbie
As a Latino myself, I totally agree with Cruz and Rubio. The GOP establishment is making too much over a non-race in New Jersey. The Democrat Party didnt compete for the New Jersey governorship because they want Christie as the GOP nominee in 2016, so that the media can turn around and destroy him. Its all a set up!
Fox News reports while the spotlight shines brightly on Gov. Chris Christie, and more moderate Republicans see a glimmer of hope to winning back the White House, two prominent Tea Party stars are very publicly rolling their eyes senators Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.Both senators on Wednesday downplayed the view that Christies victory in Democrat-leaning New Jersey, and his strong showing among Latinos he got 51 percent of this crucial electorates vote was a model for the GOP to follow on a national level.
Cruz gave what, at best, could be considered a backhanded compliment.I think it is terrific that he is brash, that he is outspoken, and that he won his race, Cruz, who is from Texas, told ABC News. But I think we need more leaders in Washington with the courage to stand for principle. And in particular, Obamacare is not working.The ABC report then added: Asked whether Christie is a true conservative, Cruz walked away. Aides said he didnt have time for more questions.
Cruz, Rubio and Christie are all considered potential presidential candidates in 2016. But given the dismal performance of the GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney in 2012 among Latino voters he got only 27 percent of their support, while President Obamas was 71 percent political experts say Christies more moderate image and his broad appeal now put him in a stronger position to be the GOP nominee in 2016.
Rubio, Cruzs fellow senator and fellow Cuban-American, expressed similar tepid feelings in an interview with CNN.
He said, essentially, that Christies style may be just fine for New Jersey, but that people should not be so quick to think its the magic GOP wand for the nation.
“I think we need to understand that some of these races don’t apply to future races. Every race is differentit has a different set of factors but I congratulate (Christie) on his win,” he told CNN.
On the night of his victory, and the next day, Christie did not hesitate to gloat about achieving the kind of broad support that has eluded his party.
“We won the Latino vote last night,” Christie said on Wednesday at a speech in Union City, traditionally an immigrant gateway, just a few miles from Manhattan, where 85 percent of the population is Latino. “Now find another Republican in America whos won the Latino vote recently. Why? Its because of the relationships. You get in, you build relationships, you build trust, and then people are willing to give you a chance. And of all the things that happened last night, thats the thing that I am most gratified about.”
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Never. When he won the nomination I called the election for Obama. McCain has risen to the level of his incompetence and will rise no higher. He got the job, the girl and the cash.
That’s fine and acceptable. Everyone can vote their conscience. Just understand that you vote with the majority whether you vote for a third party candidate or stay home. That’s the reality.
GHB never had Reagan’s perspective. He was there to watch the store for the GOPe. Perot cost him reelection and he’d have been better than Clinton. That’s the point.
Reagan didn’t shrink the government or even eliminate the two brand new departments - DOEducation or DOEnergy. It’s hard to do, not impossible to do. It simply takes time and a long term perspective.
Keeping in mind that our Savior is Jesus Christ and not some politician, the entire process is flawed. Better to have a guy that agrees with us 50% than 0%. You can work with them.
What’s really, truly important is controlling the Congress for a generation or two. Just as the ‘devil’s in the details’ so are the angels. We can write legislation that passes and is signed and that moves our agenda forward, by inches if necessary. That’s the reality.
We’re not going to get the perfect candidate. To win the US Presidency you need to compromise and come to terms with the powers that be. There’s no other way.
Look at the numbers. They don’t lie. We don’t live in a country that is even nominally conservative.
My mind isn’t closed, it just isn’t open for absurdities like claiming that any Republican would be worse than Obama.
Only if you think I owe you my vote.
You want it, you earn it. I'm fed up with the entitlement mentality.
/johnny
Do you support Cruz and the Tea Party?
Absolutely and I want to win. Frontal assaults mostly lose in combat and the same is true in politics. There isn’t going to be a single hero and I doubt that most of, if any, solutions are going to come from government.
I think Cruz did two brilliant things, that the GOPe, including that overbearing, presumptuous Michael Medved attacked as foolish. First, he stood up to Obama and the Democrat Senate. Second, he forced them to do a lot of evil things to the American people. He showed their true selves.
That said, take a look at Nate Silver’s article and analysis. You’d study the enemies plans if they fell into your hands, correct? Nate is correct in his analysis and shows how Romney lost (despite getting more votes than McCain and more conservative voters than GW Bush). We need a few key things to get our country back:
A. We need to hold Congress for at least a generation, the longer the better.
B. We need to understand that transformations, like the one that we’re watching were and are incremental. The Left used the power of American government to undermine America.
C. They lose a lot. We’re winning on guns and abortion. They’re not supermen, for the most part their grifters and their henchmen, banditti without brilliance.
D. We need solid conservative leadership, but that doesn’t mean holding the whip or being Speaker or even Majority leader, actually it’s better we’re not. Those jobs are tough, because they’re all about finding and holding coalitions for votes.
E. We need a GOP President to be in office when the economy comes back. If not, the Dems and their capon media will take all the credit. Get the economy going and the rest just follows.
F. The Dem coalition is cracking up. We need solid outreach to conservative minorities and strong, pro-growth plans that really help people. Take a look at what Mike Lee is talking about. We need RINOs, the public and conservatives to find common ground, use that common ground to move the country back on track, back toward the Constitution.
Let me give you an example. Illegal immigration is devastating American citizens in a particular demographic: the working poor and the mid- to lower-middle classes. Win them back and you’ve got a majority to knock out illegal immigration and their rich/big business supporters. Look at the Dems and you’ll see their the Party of the Educated/Wealthy Urban class. We can break them, but not in a frontal assault and not all at once.
I’m just giving you the math and the reality of not voting or voting third (losing) party.
I cannot think of the last politician I felt earned my vote. Can you?
/johnny
Oh, how lucky to be a Texican. ;-]
Liberal Republicans ask conservatives to compromise yet they very rarely reciprocate. Look at all the very public hissy fits they have had over marginal or struggling conservative candidates. Dems don’t do that. They pull their “weak” candidates over the finish line and get them elected. They don’t stab them in the back GOPe style.
Nationally, I don’t think we could win the Latino vote with Chris Christie even if we dug a pit, roasted him, and held a picnic.
Neither was his New World Order daddy. In fact we have had one conservative President since Calvin Coolidge, Ronald Reagan, and he was not conservative enough in my opinion. He should have dropped the 11th commandment and took those big spending Progressive Republicans to the woodshed.
He should have demanded an end to the Department of Education and Border enforcement, but sadly he didn't.
-— Ronald Reagan, and he was not conservative enough in my opinion -—
In his defense, he didn’t have the House or Senate, any media, or the internet. Pretty remarkable.
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