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Ted Cruz And Marco Rubio Reject Chris Christie As A Model For Winning The Latino Vote
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Posted on 11/08/2013 9:03:35 AM PST by SoConPubbie

As a Latino myself, I totally agree with Cruz and Rubio. The GOP establishment is making too much over a “non-race” in New Jersey. The Democrat Party didn’t compete for the New Jersey governorship because they want Christie as the GOP nominee in 2016, so that the media can turn around and destroy him. It’s all a set up!

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Fox News reports while the spotlight shines brightly on Gov. Chris Christie, and more moderate Republicans see a glimmer of hope to winning back the White House, two prominent Tea Party stars are very publicly rolling their eyes – senators Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.

Both senators on Wednesday downplayed the view that Christie’s victory in Democrat-leaning New Jersey, and his strong showing among Latinos – he got 51 percent of this crucial electorate’s vote – was a model for the GOP to follow on a national level.

Cruz gave what, at best, could be considered a backhanded compliment.
“I think it is terrific that he is brash, that he is outspoken, and that he won his race,” Cruz, who is from Texas, told ABC News. “But I think we need more leaders in Washington with the courage to stand for principle. And in particular, Obamacare is not working.”

The ABC report then added: “Asked whether Christie is a true conservative, Cruz walked away. Aides said he didn’t have time for more questions.”

Cruz, Rubio and Christie are all considered potential presidential candidates in 2016. But given the dismal performance of the GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney in 2012 among Latino voters – he got only 27 percent of their support, while President Obama’s was 71 percent – political experts say Christie’s more moderate image and his broad appeal now put him in a stronger position to be the GOP nominee in 2016.

Rubio, Cruz’s fellow senator and fellow Cuban-American, expressed similar tepid feelings in an interview with CNN.

He said, essentially, that Christie’s style may be just fine for New Jersey, but that people should not be so quick to think it’s the magic GOP wand for the nation.

“I think we need to understand that some of these races don’t apply to future races. Every race is different–it has a different set of factors – but I congratulate (Christie) on his win,” he told CNN.

On the night of his victory, and the next day, Christie did not hesitate to gloat about achieving the kind of broad support that has eluded his party.

“We won the Latino vote last night,” Christie said on Wednesday at a speech in Union City, traditionally an immigrant gateway, just a few miles from Manhattan, where 85 percent of the population is Latino. “Now find another Republican in America who’s won the Latino vote recently. Why? It’s because of the relationships. You get in, you build relationships, you build trust, and then people are willing to give you a chance. And of all the things that happened last night, that’s the thing that I am most gratified about.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: New Jersey; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: barbarabuono; chrischristie; finos; florida; marcorubio; newjersey; tedcruz; texas
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To: RobbyS
McCain had a good chance of winning

Never. When he won the nomination I called the election for Obama. McCain has risen to the level of his incompetence and will rise no higher. He got the job, the girl and the cash.

41 posted on 11/09/2013 4:56:15 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That’s fine and acceptable. Everyone can vote their conscience. Just understand that you vote with the majority whether you vote for a third party candidate or stay home. That’s the reality.


42 posted on 11/09/2013 4:57:43 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SoConPubbie

GHB never had Reagan’s perspective. He was there to watch the store for the GOPe. Perot cost him reelection and he’d have been better than Clinton. That’s the point.


43 posted on 11/09/2013 4:58:55 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SoConPubbie

Reagan didn’t shrink the government or even eliminate the two brand new departments - DOEducation or DOEnergy. It’s hard to do, not impossible to do. It simply takes time and a long term perspective.

Keeping in mind that our Savior is Jesus Christ and not some politician, the entire process is flawed. Better to have a guy that agrees with us 50% than 0%. You can work with them.

What’s really, truly important is controlling the Congress for a generation or two. Just as the ‘devil’s in the details’ so are the angels. We can write legislation that passes and is signed and that moves our agenda forward, by inches if necessary. That’s the reality.

We’re not going to get the perfect candidate. To win the US Presidency you need to compromise and come to terms with the powers that be. There’s no other way.

Look at the numbers. They don’t lie. We don’t live in a country that is even nominally conservative.


44 posted on 11/09/2013 5:03:33 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: slowhandluke

My mind isn’t closed, it just isn’t open for absurdities like claiming that any Republican would be worse than Obama.


45 posted on 11/09/2013 5:04:33 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Just understand that you vote with the majority whether you vote for a third party candidate or stay home.

Only if you think I owe you my vote.

You want it, you earn it. I'm fed up with the entitlement mentality.

/johnny

46 posted on 11/09/2013 6:01:35 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 1010RD

Do you support Cruz and the Tea Party?


47 posted on 11/09/2013 6:42:50 AM PST by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Absolutely and I want to win. Frontal assaults mostly lose in combat and the same is true in politics. There isn’t going to be a single hero and I doubt that most of, if any, solutions are going to come from government.

I think Cruz did two brilliant things, that the GOPe, including that overbearing, presumptuous Michael Medved attacked as foolish. First, he stood up to Obama and the Democrat Senate. Second, he forced them to do a lot of evil things to the American people. He showed their true selves.

That said, take a look at Nate Silver’s article and analysis. You’d study the enemies plans if they fell into your hands, correct? Nate is correct in his analysis and shows how Romney lost (despite getting more votes than McCain and more conservative voters than GW Bush). We need a few key things to get our country back:

A. We need to hold Congress for at least a generation, the longer the better.

B. We need to understand that transformations, like the one that we’re watching were and are incremental. The Left used the power of American government to undermine America.

C. They lose a lot. We’re winning on guns and abortion. They’re not supermen, for the most part their grifters and their henchmen, banditti without brilliance.

D. We need solid conservative leadership, but that doesn’t mean holding the whip or being Speaker or even Majority leader, actually it’s better we’re not. Those jobs are tough, because they’re all about finding and holding coalitions for votes.

E. We need a GOP President to be in office when the economy comes back. If not, the Dems and their capon media will take all the credit. Get the economy going and the rest just follows.

F. The Dem coalition is cracking up. We need solid outreach to conservative minorities and strong, pro-growth plans that really help people. Take a look at what Mike Lee is talking about. We need RINOs, the public and conservatives to find common ground, use that common ground to move the country back on track, back toward the Constitution.

Let me give you an example. Illegal immigration is devastating American citizens in a particular demographic: the working poor and the mid- to lower-middle classes. Win them back and you’ve got a majority to knock out illegal immigration and their rich/big business supporters. Look at the Dems and you’ll see their the Party of the Educated/Wealthy Urban class. We can break them, but not in a frontal assault and not all at once.


48 posted on 11/09/2013 8:08:12 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m just giving you the math and the reality of not voting or voting third (losing) party.

I cannot think of the last politician I felt earned my vote. Can you?


49 posted on 11/09/2013 8:09:06 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Cruz.

/johnny

50 posted on 11/09/2013 9:09:14 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh, how lucky to be a Texican. ;-]


51 posted on 11/09/2013 9:41:27 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Reagan didn’t shrink the government or even eliminate the two brand new departments - DOEducation or DOEnergy. It’s hard to do, not impossible to do. It simply takes time and a long term perspective.

Reagan tried to decrease the size of government, was constantly preaching about it and exercising his Veto Pen regularly but was unable to overcome the Democrats and their big-spending ways.

He proposed in 1981 to eliminated the Department of Education, but his own Party (same as today the GOP-E) led by Howard Baker opposed him.

He was able to downsize the Department of Education by 24%, HUD by 22%, Office of Personnel Management by 19% and Government Services Administration and Labor both down by 15%. Overall, he was able to reduce the Federal Civilian workforce by 5%.
52 posted on 11/09/2013 6:04:16 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 1010RD
We’re not going to get the perfect candidate. To win the US Presidency you need to compromise and come to terms with the powers that be. There’s no other way.

Which numbers?

Those provided by a flawed polling system run by (for the most part) rabid democrats and used, more often then not, to shape opinion, rather than report opinion?

Or are you insinuating that the election of 2012 somehow proves your point?

You know the one, where we had a Marxist(Obama) running against a Lying Progressive Liberal(Mitt Romney)?

Mitt Romney being the latest "Our guy is not as evil as their guy and you'd better vote for him if you don't want 4 more years of Obama". That guy? A guy that couldn't communicate one single conservative thought or policy position if his life depended on it because why? Because he IS a Progressive Liberal as his own record proves over and over again.

So, I wonder what the "numbers" would have shown if we actually had somebody on our side running who actually believed in what we believed in and could communicate it and would have taken the battle to Obama (which Mitt Romney refused to do being the coward that he is)?

And Compromise? Are you for real?

In one breath you bring up the name of Jesus Christ, as if that is some type of shield, the Son of God who never compromised on anything, and then you have the temerity on FreeRepublic to make the comment that we need to compromise?

Let me ask you, did Ronald Reagan compromise, or did he communicate?

No need to answer because all of us that were there know the answer, he always communicated the conservative principles that work and why the others do not.

You sound like Karl Rove and Mitt Romney.

Go take your poison and play somewhere else.
53 posted on 11/09/2013 6:12:07 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Liberal Republicans ask conservatives to compromise yet they very rarely reciprocate. Look at all the very public hissy fits they have had over marginal or struggling conservative candidates. Dems don’t do that. They pull their “weak” candidates over the finish line and get them elected. They don’t stab them in the back GOPe style.


54 posted on 11/09/2013 6:19:50 PM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90
Liberal Republicans ask conservatives to compromise yet they very rarely reciprocate. Look at all the very public hissy fits they have had over marginal or struggling conservative candidates. Dems don’t do that. They pull their “weak” candidates over the finish line and get them elected. They don’t stab them in the back GOPe style.

Compromise is the excuse they use to move to the left, each and every time.

Backed up by faked numbers and using failed, lousy, rotten candidates as the excuse.
55 posted on 11/09/2013 6:27:28 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Nationally, I don’t think we could win the Latino vote with Chris Christie even if we dug a pit, roasted him, and held a picnic.


56 posted on 11/09/2013 6:36:21 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: RichInOC; 1010RD
Nationally, I don’t think we could win the Latino vote with Chris Christie even if we dug a pit, roasted him, and held a picnic.

There is no way to win the Latino vote on a conservative platform, but that should not deter us from promoting a conservative platform of policy positions.

A plurality, if not a majority of them have been raised with this socialistic mind-set that the Government is their sugar-daddy and will take care of them. That's their culture.

Our side needs someone like Reagan to communicate the greatness of conservative ideals and policy positions. We have that in Governor Palin, Senator Cruz and Senator Lee.

This should be the strategy, this should be the approach, not compromise.

I still just can't believe that anyone on FreeRepublic would be suggesting that type of garbage. (not you, but 1010RD)
57 posted on 11/09/2013 6:42:35 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 1010RD
GW Bush wasn’t conservative.

Neither was his New World Order daddy. In fact we have had one conservative President since Calvin Coolidge, Ronald Reagan, and he was not conservative enough in my opinion. He should have dropped the 11th commandment and took those big spending Progressive Republicans to the woodshed.

He should have demanded an end to the Department of Education and Border enforcement, but sadly he didn't.

58 posted on 11/10/2013 8:58:07 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: itsahoot

-— Ronald Reagan, and he was not conservative enough in my opinion -—

In his defense, he didn’t have the House or Senate, any media, or the internet. Pretty remarkable.


59 posted on 11/10/2013 9:04:30 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 1010RD
Good post. However, I must admit that I have no patience and no love for any moderate. I live in Ohio and this damn place is full of them and they make me sick. Rob Portman can go to hell! (See, I couldn't hold back that outburst. This is what Ohio will do to you) :)
60 posted on 11/13/2013 9:32:45 AM PST by ohioman
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