Posted on 11/09/2013 5:41:28 AM PST by rellimpank
1. The house she went to was several blocks away from the scene of her car accident.
2. There is a two hour gap from the time of the car accident to the time she was shot. There is no accounting for where she was in between.
3. Everyone has a cell phone, right?
Here are some details....
” Renisha McBride, of Detroit, was shot and killed by the blast to the face in the Detroit suburb of Dearborn Heights early Saturday.
“This man’s claiming — believed the girl was breaking into the home. And he’s also saying the gun discharged accidentally,” Lt. James Serwatowski, chief detective, told the Detroit Free Press Thursday...
... McBride’s aunt, Bernita Spinks told the Detroit News the teen was likely seeking help after a car crash around 2:30 a.m.
“She probably wanted to ask him to make a call for her or if she could use the phone,” Spinks said, adding that McBride’s cellphone was dead.”
IOW, the Aunt is claiming she was “probably” doing XYZ, and “likely” seeking help after a car crash. The guy is saying he thought she was trying to break in, and also that his shotgun went off accidentally.
Notice he is NOT claiming self defense, and no one seems to actually know why she was there.
“He [the police] said reports that McBride was shot in the back of the head while walking off the porch are “totally inaccurate.”
Also, from the ‘community activist’ working with the family: “If the door had been shut, then if he would have accidentally fired off or discharged the weapon, then the bullet would have hit the door and not Renisha McBride in her face, in her head,” he said.” Spoken like someone who has no clue about guns. Shotguns do NOT use bullets, but a shotgun blast is also NOT stopped by a door, particularly when fired from inches away. So one question would be, “Was the door damaged?”
My guess is that the shooter will be charged with something like manslaughter.
It's something anyone that close to Detroit should've thought through before it happened. Anyone that close to Cleveland has.
The race pimps are out there crying Renisha was “racially profiled”. Excuse me. Since the person who shot her has not been identified, how do they know his or her race? But I guess It’s okay for them to racially profile the homeowner based on the fact that it was it took place in Dearborn Heights.
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One of the posters hinted at a parent article with more detail, any ideas where it can be found?
Let me drop the author off in harlem, watts or east la at 2AM and let them ask for help and see how long they stay alive.
My two adult sons who live nearby have keys to my house and I'm fine with them coming in, even if no one is home but they know better than to let themselves in without first making sure that I'm truly not home.
They would never let themselves in, in the middle of the night, without first calling.
Years ago wifey and I were teaching at Indian Village here in rural Alaska. The White owned bar was 8 miles from village so was common for Indians to be walking home drunk. After several incidents of me running off drunks off my porch in the middle of the night, I got tired of fighting the old Plott Hound from eating them all up and this boy didn't like anybody raising their voice around the house. Old Duke chased all three of them down the road and came back all happy a few minutes later. Nx day at school, the kids were all giving me the silent treatment; it was about my old hound. They said I should shoot that dangerous man eater, to which I responded: Why would I do that? He's such a good judge of character and that left them bemused but it also ended any 3 am visits by drunks.
Why don't people just have dogs to keep everything on the straight and narrow? Quite effective you know; nobody ever even thinks of bothering you at 3 am when they hear the dog ready to eat them up. Added benefits too, my dogs keep the bear from coming around the house too here along the Yukon.
You're taking the Biden approach by suggesting that there is a "one size fits all" solution to home security.
There isn't. Some can use dogs. Some can use shotguns. Some can use the imposing physical security of locked gates, high walls, barbed wire, or whatever else might keep the bad guys away.
In my particular case, I rely on several firearms which are readily available. But I also would never open the door at 3 am. If you knock then, you will be greeted by me through a window near the front door. I will have a gun in my hand.
Unlike the description given by a Freeper above, I won't be driving anyone to the sheriff's department. If you want the police, we'll call them and they can take care of the issue. It's altogether too easy to lure a homeowner out of their house with a plea for help. I'm willing to supply help for you. I will not supply helplessness for me.
Negligent discharge equals stupidity on the part of the person holding the gun. If he wasn't wanting to shoot, why was his finger on the trigger? I'm a strong supporter of the right to keep and bear, but you have to be responsible in your handling of your weapon. Citizens do not get the same kind of get-out-of-jail-free cards that police get. You should act accordingly.
First thing I do is get my shotgun. Man knocks on door and wants to use the phone. I ask him what number and I'll cal for him. No, he wants to come in and use the phone. I chamber a shell into my shotgun and ask him if he knows what that sound was. He doesn't answer, but still asks to come in. I inform him that I have called the police and maybe they can call for him or give him a ride. He finally gives up and leaves. The cops do stop him down the road as he continues to knock on doors. I don't know if he was high, drunk or mental, or what the police did with him.
I could have just killed him, but I thought that would have been a little rude. I was going to wait for the police or until he forced his way in. Doing the latter would have been his last stupid mistake.
Oh, he seemed harmless, just misguided. I wasn't afraid, but the situation was just “off” enough to have my guard up.
Even to this day, we live near an Indian Village, people won't get outta their trucks when they stop by, until we get our dogs; why I like dogs I guess.
No, that is what the cop asserted on the warrant. At this time that assertion has remained uncorroborated by any factual evidence.
It is entirely possible that the officer LIED to obtain a warrant.
That mess is going to cost that county's tax payers a very large amount of money.
There is NO shortage of black females who also clutch their purse and cross the street when easily-recognized thugs are around... but as usual, blacks are forgiven for doing anything to other blacks.
I'm not saying the officer lied, i am saying that history shows that this dude was on record for having a history of drug related offences. which means that this was NOT a "typical" citizen who was without warrant, like the original narrative and optics wanted it to seem.
Calm the F down and wait for the whole story to come out and it might change the way you view the story.
I admit, I jumped to the conclusion that this was Joe Citizen, but after the facts came out, this dude was in the system as a drug potential transporter, whether legit of not, they had a history of potential issues.
Don't make this something it was not...
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Her family claimed she was shot in the back of the head but according to police she was shot in the face. I honestly don't know which would be worse.
Exit wounds can be more gory than entry wounds with a head shot. The confusion is understandable.
That is not what the officer attested to in warrant application. The officer attested to an unnamed K-9 officer stating the suspect was known to hide drugs in his rectum in order to obtain a warrant for the anal search that was the basis of the abuse perpetrated upon the suspect.
So far this statement has not been corroborated by any reports and the K-9 officer involved in the vehicle search made no such statement in his report on the events.
Lying to obtain a warrant makes it invalid, period, plaintiff wins big in court. Then there is the out of jurisdiction issue and the expired time limit and the expired certification of the dog that make this whole thing problematic.
Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but it matters to me that the police obey the damn laws, just like the rest of us.
What we have here are shit for brains officers (and doctors) that kept doubling down on trying to find a drug stash in this guy's alimentary canal in the face of clear medical evidence that there were none because they were so sure based on his criminal records that he just must have drugs on him.
This case is a perfect illustration why a prior criminal record is insufficient probable cause for a warrant.
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