Skip to comments.VA sued for harassing Christian chaplains
Posted on 11/10/2013 5:37:30 PM PST by lowbridge
Two military chaplains are suing Eric Shinseki, secretary of the U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs, or VA, for allegedly being harassed and drummed out of a training and placement program because of their Christian faith.
Chaplains Major Steven Firtko, U.S. Army (Retired) and Lieutenant Commander Dan Klender, U.S. Navy, claim they were mocked, scolded and threatened for their faith while enrolled in the San Diego VA-DOD Clinical Pastoral Education Center program, which trains and distributes chaplains to military and VA medical centers in the San Diego area.
According to their lawsuit, Firtko and Klender allege the Centers supervisor, Ms. Nancy Dietsch, a VA employee, derided them in classrooms and even had one of them dismissed for failing to renounce his Christian beliefs.
For example, on Sept. 24, 2012, the lawsuit claims, during a classroom discussion, Dietsch asked Firtko what he believed faith was.
Firtko responded by quoting Hebrews 11:1 Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Dietsch told Firtko, on the first of several such instances according to the lawsuit, that he was not to quote the Bible in the chaplaincy program classroom.
On another incident in October, Dietsch allegedly shouted at Firtko for quoting Scripture again, banging her fist on the table and stating it made her feel like she had been pounded over her head with a sledge hammer.
The lawsuit also claims Dietsch told her students that the VA in general and she in particular do not allow chaplains to pray in Jesus name in public ceremonies.
Dietsch is also accused of allowing other students to deride Firtko and Klender, mocking them in front of the class
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Wait till pedal-to-the-metal Islamist federal judges worm their way through the system.
Of course, they’ll have lots of fun interacting with the pedal-to-the-metal gay federal judges.
” he was not to quote the Bible in the chaplaincy program classroom”
This is ridiculous.
I may have missed it, but I don’t see Muslims in America going after gays. In fact, their silence on the issue is deafening. They seem to direct all of their angst against Christian infidels.
If the DOD is going to pull this crap, they should just abolish the official position of chaplain.
Yeah, there seems to be a kind of a détente between these two otherwise very extreme, very uncompromising groups. I wonder why. Well, I can guess at a couple of possibilities.
Yep. Concentrate on one enemy at a time. Then when the time comes you can do what Iran does to the gays. All in good time...
Exactly the same thing active duty chaplains are dealing with. Christian cleansing continues full speed ahead in Obama’s military.
Eric Shinseki, the clintonoid general responsible for the uniform headgear change to black berets.
Also the mastermind of transitioning the Army from tracked vehicles to tires (because armored cars are more European), hence the Stryker program.
Ms. Nancy Dietsch wouldn't by chance happen to be a member of the militant Atheist GLBT pervert persuasion...?
FINALLY!!! Obama and the Democrats are PURGING our once fine military of ALL CHRISTIAN LEADERS!!!
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