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Why Most Postmortems of Virginia’s Gubernatorial Race Are Wrong
Roll Call Rothenblog ^ | 11/11/13 | Stu Rothenberg

Posted on 11/13/2013 5:52:03 AM PST by 1010RD

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To: riverdawg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/11/05/va.gov.exit.polls.1120p.110513.v2.final%5B1%5D.copy.pdf

Liberal Democrats did NOT vote for Sarvis...
Moderate REPUBLICANS, did....

Strange numbers in this poll. 13% of people who claimed to be “Conservative”, voted for McCauliffe??

I think, the ONLY WAY that happens is... voter fraud.


41 posted on 11/13/2013 8:31:28 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Or, bad questions from the pollsters and/or respondents who don’t define political labels very well.


42 posted on 11/13/2013 8:37:08 AM PST by EternalVigilance (tomhoefling@gmail.com)
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To: EternalVigilance
“While there were many factors that came into play, fundamentally Ken lost because of Ken.”

That's the bottom line. He was a badly flawed candidate. If you can't beat an odious creep like McAuliffe, you have other important issues besides campaign funding and the presence of a Libertarian on the ballot.

43 posted on 11/13/2013 8:37:12 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: SomeCallMeTim

“Strange numbers in this poll. 13% of people who claimed to be ‘Conservative’, voted for McCauliffe??”

I agree that’s a strange statistic.


44 posted on 11/13/2013 8:39:55 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg

The opinions of anyone that does not live here is worthless. If you were subjected to the onslaught of unanswered negative campaigning you would know it was a one sided battle. Jesus himself would have lost to McA$$wipe under these circumstances. As bad as the GOP didn’t want it the DEMON Party REALLY WANTED THIS ONE.


45 posted on 11/13/2013 8:40:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Bingo!


46 posted on 11/13/2013 8:41:55 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: GraceG

Perhaps, but where was the TEA Party money? I don’t think that tells the whole story. If the TEA Party candidates or conservatives in general want to play ball, they need to learn how. If you want the milk you must play nice with mommy.


47 posted on 11/13/2013 8:43:03 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: central_va

“he opinions of anyone that does not live here is worthless.”

I am a native Virginian, and travel to the Old Dominion six or seven times a year to visit friends and family (including our daughter) who live there. I follow Virginia politics very closely, and have an understanding of the culture, demographics, and political geography of the state. I have lived in Central Virginia, on the Peninsula, and (twice) in Northern Virginia. If you don’t value my opinions, that’s fine with me; don’t read them.


48 posted on 11/13/2013 8:45:56 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg

You know.. if you look at these cross-tabs, the numbers make NO SENSE! Cuccinelli wins in almost all of them.. yet, he somehow LOST the overall??

Look at the support/oppose Obamacare numbers...

Look at the Important Issues numbers??

WTF is going on??


49 posted on 11/13/2013 8:52:27 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: central_va
The opinions of anyone that does not live here is worthless

I think, you'd be more accurate to say: "The opinions of anyone who does not live here are worth less".

Living in the state where and election is held greatly improves the understanding of any analyst. But, election experts (Not me) can learn much from reviewing actual results.

50 posted on 11/13/2013 8:58:26 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: riverdawg

YOU DID RECEIVE THE CONSTANT ANTI CUCH PROPAGANDA SINCE JULY. THE CONSTANT BEATING UP OF CUCH. YOU DID NOT EXPERIENCE IT. GET IT?


51 posted on 11/13/2013 8:59:55 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I am no spring chicken, the scale of this media blitz was something I have never seen before. It was UFB.


52 posted on 11/13/2013 9:01:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Cucchinelli was his own worst enemy in the campaign. He gave the ammo to the McAuliffe campaign and they used it. There aren't enough people in the Tea Party to control state-wide elections in Virginia, even in an “off-year” like 2013. Candidates there need to reach out to the center to win. Hope you enjoy your four years of that creep, McAuliffe.
53 posted on 11/13/2013 9:07:57 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg

It was all about the money and the constant personal attack. If you don’t live here then your opinion is just like the pore between you legs.


54 posted on 11/13/2013 9:10:07 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

F.O.


55 posted on 11/13/2013 10:03:58 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: Carry_Okie
"As far as I could discern, Cucinelli lost because he was so busy appealing to the base that he failed to sell his ideas to the center."

Cuccinelli won the independent vote by 9 points.

56 posted on 11/13/2013 11:45:29 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: central_va
"For those of us in Virginia, any pretense that the GOP would play ball with Conservatives has been wiped away. It WAS that bad. It will only get worse."

Exactly right. If I needed any final straw to make me repudiate the filthy, traitorous GOPe---and I didn't---this would have done it.

57 posted on 11/13/2013 11:48:09 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: riverdawg
"Cucchinelli was his own worst enemy in the campaign. He gave the ammo to the McAuliffe campaign and they used it."

Not at all. It's impossible to get your message out when your campaign is broke and the RNC turns its back.

58 posted on 11/13/2013 11:50:57 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: CatherineofAragon
Cuccinelli won the independent vote by 9 points.

Not when you throw in the "Libertarian" vote.

59 posted on 11/13/2013 11:58:14 AM PST by Carry_Okie ("Single payer" is Medicaid for all; they'll pull the sheet over your head when you're done.)
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To: central_va
I am no spring chicken, the scale of this media blitz was something I have never seen before. It was UFB.

I can imagine... I'm seeing something like it NOW, by McConnell against Bevin, his Tea Party Challenger. And we're 8 months away from the primary!

Judging by the numbers, Tea Party supporters did NOT go Libertarian...

But, many "moderate" Republicans did.. and, a surprisingly high number of Republicans voted for McAulliffe, primarily because, they DID NOT LIKE Cuccoo.

Those are the tell-tale signs of:

1) A successful media mud slinging campaign, and/or
2) Fraudulent vote counting.

60 posted on 11/13/2013 12:14:12 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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