Skip to comments.Articles of Impeachment Against Holder to be Introduced on Thursday
Posted on 11/13/2013 8:03:30 AM PST by bkopto
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Yeah I remember Bill Clinton running really scared..... no wait that didn’t happen
The guard dog AND president in fact is Valerie Jarrett....
As long as Valerie Jarrett is there it doesn’t matter who you pick off or what you do
Metoo. I also agree that it is 2 years over due.
They are impeaching the wrong person....
Maybe the idea is to start putting pressure on Holder until he creaks and starts pointing the finger at Obama....
Whay pick on Holder? He is just Obama’s tool.
What court case? Do you think that the Obama’s pet AG is going to order his underlings to pursue charges against him?
How can Valerie Jarrett control every person in law enforcement? If one unelected person can have that much power then the country is basically over. All the checks and balances have been defeated.
I believe that the whole regime has been functioning through threats. Threats of murder, threats of bureaucratic persecution, threats of economic repercussions, and threats of imprisonment. The check and balance to that happening is SUPPOSED to be law enforcement - at federal, state, and local levels. Valerie Jarrett can only wield that kind of power if ALL law enforcement personnel GIVE HER that power by refusing to investigate and prosecute these threats. We already know the threats to the media in October of 2008. Law enforcement should be following up on that and should imprison at LEAST George Soros, David Axelrod, and Rahm Emanuel, according to Doug Hagmann’s investigation.
With subpoena power, Congress can investigate all kinds of threats - which would never happen under Holder. Hopefully those threats could be tracked back to Jarrett and she will end up in jail. Like Al Capone.
We don’t know until we try. But I think we know that nothing will happen as long as Holder can keep all federal law enforcement stifled. When corruptocrats start losing their jobs to go to jail because they are convicted on corruption or other criminal charges, whistleblowers at least have SOMETHING on their side, to counter the regime’s threats of harassment, firing, public humiliation, and death. I don’t know whether it will be enough, but anything is better than nothing.
All of what you say is completely true. This may be the last charge to turn things around. If we don’t we are in the same situation vis a vis the government and the average citizen as our founding fathers were in 1775. When it could not be changed by petitioning the king and by firing up the populace to make the king listen they had to take the more direct route of reclaiming their liberties by force. They did it then, we may be forced into the same situation today. If it comes to that I am as willing to take part even at my age as the founding fathers were back then. I had ancestors who were Minutemen, militia members and regulars against the crown and I will uphold my oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and expecially domestic to reclaim the Constitution that waa the result of their sacrifices.
FUBO, FAD, & down with the democrat party
That’s exactly right-—atack on every front possible. Make them keep their heads on a swivel. There appears to be some swivelling going on. I notice just this morning that Jarrett has come out talking which is a break from the old silent treatment they usually give us. Could be she’s telling the Kenyan to shut the bleep up-—she can handle this?
Pete is my congressman, I am actually shocked he is in the middle of this...
He must be up for re-election...;-)
Also, Randy Weber used to be a Precinct Chair friend of mine, before he launched into the big leagues...
No matter where this goes, it is a long time in the making...
Those GOP-e’s resisting this need to be publically flogged...Bunch of cowards!!!
Someone should remind Olson that Holder is Black, and therefore has no need to respect, or even obey, the law.
“exactly... this is picking the wrong target... what a ninny.”
Unfortunately, some court somewhere will just rule that Congress does not have STANDING to impeach Eric withHolder!
Ozzy fans unite!
Agree. More power to him.
“He will be impeached in 24 business hours.”
OK, let’s assume you’re right. How will it play out?
How long will it take for Harry Reid to convene the Senate and ACQUIT Holder? 24 hours? 24 minutes? 24 seconds?
And THEN, even with a Republican-controlled Senate after 2015, Holder will get to keep his job, won’t he?
“Double Jeopardy”, donchaknow?
Why are some people so eager to get into a shooting war with EMPTY guns?
this was not a decision made lightly,
Why not? It should have ben very easy.
Goodlatte barely won re-election so he’s worried about his career. Some balls would help it!
Start with Holder and the Dept of Just-Us. They are protecting Obastard, and no investigation will proceed without DoJ assistance.
Hey, any cockroach in the Traitorobama administration they can step on is one less cockroach. Maybe if they get some practice, they can go after the Big Cockroach!
Forget Obamacare for now. It's a Dem mess and a Dem problem. No American is going to be able to forget it whether they want to or not. No need to push a train that's already rolling.
The timing for this is good: just as they waking to the reality of what they voted for twice, American people will get a good whiff of the true character of Barry's hatchet man. They'll be reminded of actual instances of flagrant abuses.
Holder is a cancer and must be locked up-- figuratively and literally. He is the bulwark between Barry and the justice he deserves.
My BIL just made an interesting comment, could the republicans be “testing” the impeachment waters?
No matter what any Rat has done, the Rats will cover for them.
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i have never been introduced to an indictment
But we don't have the votes to do it. It would only change the subject and the media would rally around this "attack on Obama." The media would engage in a non-stop blitz of how this is the hateful, racist Tea Pary crowd trying to destroy the wonderful Obama and the majority low information crowd would eat it up. The Obama care issue would disappear and the conservatives would, once again, lose. No. Stick with hammering on Obamacare non-stop. Don't change the subject from a winning issue. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this matter.
Your reasons are sound and your reply is as civil as any I’ve ever received.
The respect is mutual.
So your point is that the House should just back off? Or is your point that you're just smarter than I am, a more astute observer?
It is my recollection that Clinton's agenda was pretty much altered as it became dominated by the proceedings, and that several of his top operatives began jumping ship. Even Chrissy Matthews was tired of the Clintons over it.
I, for one, would enjoy the process being repeated, and even expanded.
Did the articles of Impeachement get filed, officially yet???
I have not heard a peep about this, and its Friday, well, way early on Friday...
At least Reuters picked up on this outside this website, and the original source linked to this discussion thread...
But nothing else so far that I have seen...
I am veginning to wonder if someone threw a monkey in the wrench here, and they didn’t file the articles yesterday for some reason...
I will be making a call this morning, first thing, to Olsen’s office and find out the true poop...
News of this, if it had been accomplished as planned would have really put a dent in the non-stop droning on about how srewed up ObamaCare is...
If anyone else knows anything, obviously feel free to chime in here...
I’ll be back in a little while with what I can find out...Probably around 8am CST, those staffers don’t usually start fielding constituency calls till about then if its a good day...
Just got off the horn with Olsen’s office...
The procedure followed allowed the Articles of Impeachment to be filed with the House Clerk, as “H.Res. 411”
Now, I thought a “resolution” was a watered down procedure to make some politicians feel good about beating the drum on certain pet issues...
But that is not what this is as explained to me...
The H.Res. 411 will now go before the full Judicial committee for review and debate...
And since yesterday, we have had a few more Reps pile onto this effort...
So the process has begun, it will get its time before the committee, and hopefully a vote on it will occur soon...And then its off to the full house (Floor) for additional hair pulling and nashing of teeth...
The pin is pulled, so all we gotta do is toss it in the mix and watch the gomers run...
If anything call yer congress critter and let them know you expect them to get onboard, sooner than later...It has been filed, so there is no more excuses...Get this done!!!
If the Senate poops on this, so be it, Holder will still be impeached...If they follow through...
Accept no substitute!!!
You misremember history. The impeachment came after the 1994 by elections (in fact it was 1998). Clinton’s agenda was altered by Gingrich and the republican wins in 1994. Then Clinton had to triangulate and compromise (at least a smudge).
My point was simply that thinking it will make someone afraid or run away is naive. With the thugocracy in charge at the WH now we need to go for the juggler. The hydra has many heads. It is important to get the primary one before trying to chop the sides
Bill Clinton was popular with his half of the country but this isn’t happening this time around. The Dem voters have been bitten in the butt by their own Dear Leader and it really smarts. :-)
and for them the it only gets worse....;)
Here is the text:
At every step from now on the resolution can be buried - the Judiciary Committee chairman can sit on it, or if it gets out of committee, Speaker Boehner can sit on it.
That’s essentially what happened when Rep. Kucinich’s articles of impeachment against President Bush.
“Kucinich had said that if his impeachment article was tabled he would simply propose another one. In June, he spent four hours on the House floor reading his longer resolution into the record, only to see it buried in committee.”
Just for completeness here is the text of Kucinich’s H. Res. 1258:
This resolution was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary (like H. Res. 411) where it was tabled and never debated.
Well, I believe th epolitical environment is a little more amiable, and if Bonehead decides to cave to the darkside of the force again...
I really hope that the good people of Ohio hear the call, and make an adjustment, at the very least...If not, then I am sure there can be other options to explore...
This has to get out of that committee and to the full House and a vote...That is the most I feel that will come of this, at this particular juncture...
You have described the "New Constitutionalism." The theory is that the independent branches have no 'authority' over each other.
The Republicans (and the SCOTUS) have taken this somewhat plausible theory a step too far. That is, not only will they not hold the Executive accountable, they allow the Executive to co-opt their constitutional prerogatives and add them to his own.
This is clearly one explanation of the SCOTUS refusal to hear Obama eligibility suits, as vetting the President is "none of their business," but Congress'!
Oh, that would be rich. I wonder if that would anger Congress enough to use their ability to strip cases from the USSC purview.
This is me, holding my breath until it comes true.