Posted on 11/13/2013 11:24:53 AM PST by Kaslin
RUSH: Betsy McCaughey -- who's one of the ranking analysts of socialist medicine, socialized medicine, be it Hillarycare or Obamacare -- has a piece at Investors.com, the old Investor's Business Daily, and headline of the piece says, "Think Obamacare Is Bad Now? It Gets Worse Next Year." Okay, now, what gets worse next year?
Well, here's how she starts the piece: "'Substandard' and 'cut-rate' is what President Obama calls the health plans that millions of Americans have lost, even though they wanted to keep them. Backpedaling on his promise that 'if you like your plan, you can keep your plan,' Obama is now telling Americans another whopper: The insurance they can get on Obamacare exchanges is a better deal. Don't believe him. On the exchanges, you may no longer be able to use the doctors and hospitals you prefer.
"Many exchange plans exclude the top-drawer academic hospitals like Cedars Sinai in Los Angeles, the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and New York Presbyterian in New York City. Instead, the law says exchange plans must cover care at 'essential community providers ... that serve predominantly low-income, medically underserved individuals.'" That's from the law itself. "That means clinics, public hospitals and hospitals largely serving the Medicaid community" is where the majority of exchange plans will work.
You do not get the top-drawer hospitals and clinics. Those are reserved for people who will pay out of their pocket and will not have insurance. "Yet the president claims that people losing their health plans and having to sign up on the exchanges will be getting a better deal," and he is. That's what Jay Carney was trying to say yesterday, as they continue to lie about this law. It's just astounding. They are compounding their one lie with another.
I mean, they're just continuing to tell lies here, and they sent Carney out to say yesterday, "Well, of course the president doesn't like what's going on here! He doesn't like these substandard plans that people had, and what is gonna happen here is that people, when they lose their plan and sign up they're gonna defeat better deal. Who's opposed to that? So here's what they're defining as "getting a better deal." It's losing your doctor, losing your existing plan that you liked, now having to shop blind on a website that doesn't work for a health plan.
Settling for Medicaid-level care and government controls at underserved hospitals and clinics, all for a premium that's on average 41% higher than what you were paying. That, somehow, is a better deal. Here is the piece de resistance"Wait until the other shoe drops in 2014..." Do you know what that other shoe to drop is? All we're talking about now is people who are losing individual insurance, meaning you have gone to an insurance company and bought an individual policy, and you may be lumped in with another group.
But right now, that's the only thing affected is individual policies. Nevertheless, even though that limited number of people is affected, that limited number of people is causing all of this havoc. The other shoe to drop in 2014 is when this I same thing starts happening to people who get their health care at work. We're not talking about employer-provided coverage here yet. That shoe doesn't drop until next year. Right now, it's just the individual insurance market that's being affected by the exchanges.
It's just the individuals who are unable to keep the plan they like. Wait until everybody who's insured by their boss begins to lose their plan! That happens in January of next year. Then all hell is gonna break loose because then we're talking about the vast majority of the people in this country. Admittedly, folks, the individual insurance market is not the major part of it. I mean, how many of you...? Let me just ask you the question. How many of you have a health insurance policy, or had, that you went out and bought yourself?
Show of hands. Let me see. Probably two out of 10 people. The vast majority of people get their health insurance at work, and none of this impacted them. They haven't lost their plans yet. They haven't had their plans taken away from 'em. Their premiums and all that stuff hasn't gone up yet. That doesn't happen in the employer-provided market until January. Now, wait until 80% of people with health insurance start being impacted by Obamacare, and it's gonna make what's happening now look like Romper Room.
See, if you get your insurance at work as an employee benefit, none of what's being discussed here really has impacted you yet. About the only way it has is maybe you've been converted to part time. You may have lost your health insurance at work because your company can't stay in business with the new rules. But for those of you who still get health insurance at work -- and there's one exception, talked about it yesterday. If your company is self-insured none of this is gonna matter to you until they get around to fixing it so that you do get hurt by it.
Right now the self-insured market is not impacted by any of this. There aren't any rules or restrictions in the self-insured market. And again, the self-insured market is when your boss, your company, just pays for your health care directly, without an insurance policy. They set aside the same amount of money to insure everybody that works there. An employee goes to the doctor, has to get an operation, the company pays the hospital directly, the doctor directly, not an insurance company. That's called self-insure. And Obamacare doesn't touch them. Republicans got a carve-out for that. Now the Democrats are trying to fix that.
So the only way that you who have your insurance through your boss will not be impacted in January is if your company self-insures, and I don't know how many it is. But the point that Betsy McCaughey's making is that right now we're just talking about the individual insurance market, and let's face it, the percentage of Americans who go out and buy their own health insurance like they buy hotel rooms is tiny. Most people are insured at work. Wait 'til they start losing their policies. Wait 'til they lose their plans that they like. We're talking tons and tons of people. That's the other shoe to drop in 2014. Nobody's brought it up yet. I just want you to have a heads-up.
In other words, the website roll out is the best part of Obamacare.
this was another kickback to homosexuals.
“”Many exchange plans exclude the top-drawer academic hospitals like Cedars Sinai in Los Angeles, the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and New York Presbyterian in New York City. Instead, the law says exchange plans must cover care at ‘essential community providers ... that serve predominantly low-income, medically underserved individuals.’” That’s from the law itself. “That means clinics, public hospitals and hospitals largely serving the Medicaid community” is where the majority of exchange plans will work. “
That’s going to get very interesting. What about procedures that are only being done at first class hospitals? Well that’s a real cost saver.
Strangely, I find that reassuring. If these clinics only take cash payers, they will have to go back to real pricing, not the 300 to 400 percent markup and mark-down for insurers and government (where cash payers are stuck without the markdown). You will be able to get top quality medical care without being raped for not being in a "pricing club."
medicaid and no insurance people visit the ER's at their whim...
have an earache?....go to the ER...a sore back?...go to an ER....get a Rx for hydros'....
ERs can not refuse service and the hospital has to admit you if deemed necessary....inability to pay is not a deterrent....
you,I, and our families....we don't run to the dr for every little thing....at least I don't....I detest going to the dr and won't due it except to get my two prescriptions renewed...
I hope it becomes the worst economical disaster since the Stock Market crash of 1929, and absolutely devastates the Health Care Plans of every person in America who voted for Obama.
It’s a shame that the only people who will hear this are FReepers or people who listen to Rush. How can this message reach the majority of Americans when the major media markets will never run this story? There has go to be a way to get info like this out to the general population.
If members of the CBC and lefties like DiFi are peeling away from Obama, you know it’s worse than they’re letting on.
Let. Them. Burn.
The government workers will not have to worry about their government provided insurance being dropped. They are a protected class because they are government.
And the military was opted out in the bill, so they will not be affected by obammacare (basically they can be considered government workers).
The problem is that the "fix" just involves more coercive intrusion on the rights of individuals, on intrusion into and distortion of the insurance marketplace, on the future quality and proliferation of health care providers, and the damaging impact that their own regressive and arrogant assumptions is having on real individual American citizens and their families.
Just who do the Clintons, the Obamas, the Landrieu's, the Feinsteins--no matter how good they believe their intentions are--believe they are? That great intellectual freedom fighter, Author of the Declaration of Independence, and former President may have, inadvertently, identified them in the following quotation:
"The mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately." —Thomas Jefferson
Sick people can no longer go to the hospital around the corner. They have to be bussed to the inner-city hospital across town!
-PJ
It's gonna get worse... soon they'll outlaw 'special care' for elites... private pay will be against the law.
And these folks ... Sex workers embrace Obamacare
You know it. That's why I say if you can check into moving outside of this nation. Before that we all should be storming the elected offices & GIVE THEM NO REST UNTIL THIS IS REPEALED.
This group of hospitals was able to out-lobby other providers. However the Affordable Care Act began as a first draft, the more powerful special interest lobbies distorted it in different ways with their own selfish demands. These groups included trial lawyers, unions, pharmaceutical makers, public hospitals and health insurers. When the bill was finally completed it was a Rube Goldberg contraption.
This comment from MarketTicker was interesting:
“So massive budget deficits, cause a recession, destroy middle class, crush purchasing power, kill stock markets, durable goods die, auto sales die, consumer sales die, GDP dies, middle class and part of the upper middle class dies, doctors leave, healthcare not available, prices go to infinity, people die, everyone’s policy is cancelled, everyone (and I do mean 100%) are forced to an exchange, the exchanges double premiums this year, double or 4X next year, this bankrupts everyone who then go cash only.
Recession, chaos and a developing nation are the result.
Did I miss anything?”
Yeah, you did forget something. Somewhere in that morass of chaos things will go hot with a pushback from an armed populace and civil unrest. That’s part of the paradigm I’ve been pondering as it relates to history. The paradigm being:
1. One corner unsustainable spending with massive debt that will explode
2. 2nd corner, rise of dependency class more on gov’t assistance than in workforce
3. 3rd corner, rise of police state tyrannical edicts like Obambicare and attempted militarization of domestic security forces
couple this with
4. the 4th corner..a U.S. population with expanded gun rights more than any time in U.S. history, with more ammo/weapons purchased than any time in US history, more guns being bought in Dec 12/Jan 13 than Chinese and Indian militaries combined.
So conflict inevitable..these things can’t mathematically continue and these opposing forces are strained.... as Matt Bracken stated we’re walking in TNT factory with 100 different triggers that may go off setting off one event to the next; this paradigm is not compatible, that’s why wonder if it’s ever been repeated in history with such debt, dependency, tyranny yet with the most armed people on the planet. And it doesn’t matter if majority of population doesn’t stand up..history is turned by determined minorities..one minority being the slice of Marxist scum radicals with their puppet in the White Hut.
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