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Boeing machinists reject contract Wednesday night
Kiro 7 News ^ | Nov. 12, 2013

Posted on 11/13/2013 9:45:45 PM PST by 21twelve

Excerpt: Boeing machinists (Washington State) rejected a contract Wednesday that would have exchanged worker concessions for years of secure jobs.

(Excerpt) Read more at isearch.avg.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: aerospace
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To: Chode

Yep. Move the factory to... San Antonio or something


41 posted on 11/14/2013 4:52:56 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: taildragger
Due-diligence? I can't believe I wrote that second sentence as badly as I did. You have to know what the meaning of “are” is, to coin a phrase.

Seriously, I watched the late KIRO TV breaking news on the rejection of the Boeing contract. The members were hopping mad at Boeing. It shows how much they have been inflamed by the union rhetoric. They think this is a bluff by Boeing, so they are going to stand their ground. I believe they are taking a big risk. Boeing has already built a new plants: St. Louis, Missouri, and Charleston, South Carolina. Both have great locations to port facilities.

Seattle is a great port facility, however, the transportation to and from the port is horrible. The politicians in Washington State's capitol think highway construction will only benefit those pesky cars. Between the environmentalists and the unions, the cost of highways is sky high and takes forever to build. I bet St. Louis and Charleston have great highways.

There is a black cloud hoovering over rainy Washington State. If Boeing moves out, the economy will be hit hard. The nitwits in Olympia (the state capitol) have no clue what the real consequences will be. To me it will be the result of the liberal politicians who will have sold the State of Washington down the river. If they think their tax revenue is hurting now, wait until there are no Boeing workers to provide the state sales tax (which is one of the highest in the nation) and the property taxes.

42 posted on 11/14/2013 4:57:24 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 21twelve

I talked with a gal from Boeing yesterday who has been there for years. She said it was more than likely going to be a “no” vote.

Maybe it’s time to re-open the Wichita, KS plant. Yeah, that’s the ticket!


43 posted on 11/14/2013 5:43:22 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Once again there goes odumbo’s un-employment numbers as Boeing shuts down their Washington site and moves it somewhere else. Yes, their will be new jobs later.


44 posted on 11/14/2013 6:03:07 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Progov

“Once again there goes odumbo’s un-employment numbers as Boeing shuts down their Washington site and moves it somewhere else. Yes, their will be new jobs later.”

Boeing’s South Carolina 787 plant is not as good as many think:
http://home.foni.net/~kuttersegeln/aerostuff/deldateslog.png
(mind the logarithmic scale)

Developing a new product in a new factory with new workers may work for some plastic toys but I doubt I will be a success for an aircraft.

The workers are greedy? Who at Boeing is more greedy than the top management?


45 posted on 11/14/2013 7:31:39 AM PST by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: MHalblaub

That chart is misleading. Union member are you? The 787 in Charleston started a year later, yet, it is keeping pace for growth every bit as much as the union shop.

Let’s not forget the union shop thwarts all communication, training, and other essential business operations against all non-union shops.


46 posted on 11/14/2013 7:38:40 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: raybbr
Funny. Use a communist to promote capitalism...

I know... subtle, aren't I?
BWHAHAHAHAHA!

47 posted on 11/14/2013 7:44:53 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: MHalblaub

note the logarithmic scale AND the time offset.


48 posted on 11/14/2013 7:54:02 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: 21twelve

It appears they would prefer to have no pay for no jobs.


49 posted on 11/14/2013 9:42:33 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Rodamala

“note the logarithmic scale AND the time offset.”

The Everett plant “delivered” the first 10 aircraft within 2 years. The Charlston plant did need 3 years to deliver 10 aircraft and all the early dirty little problems were already solved.

I neither work for a union nor I’m a member of one.


50 posted on 11/14/2013 11:40:16 AM PST by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: MHalblaub
The Everett plant “delivered” the first 10 aircraft within 2 years. The Charlston plant did need 3 years to deliver 10 aircraft and all the early dirty little problems were already solved.

and your point is....?

It was probably still a better deal.

51 posted on 11/14/2013 11:41:49 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

News reports last night say Boeing says it costs 30 percent more to build a plane at a union plant.

The machinists turned down eight years of practically guaranteed employment.

I have zero sympathy for them. Zero.

No one in their right minds could blame Boeing for going elsewhere.

Waiting for the billboards....

Welcome to West Detroit!
(Formerly known as Seattle)


52 posted on 11/14/2013 12:11:43 PM PST by djf (Global warming is turning out to be a bunch of hot air!!)
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To: GeronL
100%
53 posted on 11/14/2013 3:13:19 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: jonrick46

Send them Twinkies


54 posted on 11/14/2013 3:14:17 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: djf

bump


55 posted on 11/14/2013 3:14:37 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 21twelve

...in other news...Airbus to assemble first A320 from new Mobile, Alabama facility in 2015...


56 posted on 11/14/2013 3:20:32 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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