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To: Ancesthntr
We here cannot judge that, as you have.

So your position is that no one, besides myself, has expressed a judgment on the thread?

I do not believe that in a free society the State should be taking choices like this away from people.

I agree. Just because the cop was a state employee, it does not mean that he should not do what he thought was right.

Do you think it's a good idea to just watch a man commit suicide and do nothing about it?

33 posted on 11/14/2013 8:18:01 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Sacrificing yourself for another is not suicide! Jesus himself says no greater love has he than he who lays down his life for another! He wasn’t suicidal, he was acting out of love!


56 posted on 11/14/2013 9:21:04 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: wideawake

You don’t know it was suicide. They said it was too dangerous because tbeir first concern is going home. Their goals are not the same.
Maybe you’re a coward who won’t risk his life for a loved one. But most decent people would take the risk, even a 10% odds.

And bluntly, who are you or the cop to tell anyone what or who to sacrifice their life for? Some things are more important than your own life.


62 posted on 11/14/2013 9:45:44 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: wideawake
So your position is that no one, besides myself, has expressed a judgment on the thread?

No, I was merely responding to your expressed opinion. I thought that this was fairly obvious - as was/is the fact that you and I do not agree.

I agree. Just because the cop was a state employee, it does not mean that he should not do what he thought was right.

Do you think it's a good idea to just watch a man commit suicide and do nothing about it?

When acting in one's capacity as an employee of the State, one does NOT have the same freedom of choice as an individual. There are certain things that the State (and, thus, its employees) CANNOT do (see the Bill of Rights for a few examples).

Regarding "watch a man commit suicide" - that is a judgment call - and, as I said, no one on this thread was there to be able to judge which of the men, on balance, was evaluating the situation more accurately. Maybe the cop was wrong, and the guy would've been able to go in quickly and grab the kid with a minimum of risk...and maybe the cop was right. WE CANNOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS - but your posts make it clear that you believe the police officer was correct and that the father was irrational/suicidal. The point that I was and am making is that it is NOT FOR THE STATE TO DECIDE these matters. The man was on his own property, trying to rescue a member of his own family, and he got tased and cuffed for his efforts.

Again, we CANNOT know which man was right - but you have already made your judgment, whereas I admit that I lack the necessary information to make any judgment. You side with the State reflexively, which is disturbing to me. That you believe this is, of course, your right - after all, I am not a liberal Democrat.

I presume that you are a reasonable person who wrote what you did in good faith - and reasonable people acting in good faith sometimes have to agree to disagree. This appears to be one of those situations.

69 posted on 11/14/2013 1:05:04 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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