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Is Elon Musk's supersonic Tesla electric plane idea possible?
TorqueNews ^ | 2013-11-14 | John Goreham

Posted on 11/14/2013 8:45:44 AM PST by Armen Hareyan

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To: Armen Hareyan
Do you think it is possible to make planes flying by electric power instead of fuel?

NO

21 posted on 11/14/2013 9:22:47 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Given the current state of battery technology, it is impossible. Without batteries for power, it would have to be powered by some yet-to-be-invented power source.


22 posted on 11/14/2013 9:28:05 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The ultimate work out flight. Pedal faster or die.
23 posted on 11/14/2013 9:31:41 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Jonty30

And all these new batteries needed would need to be mined, produced, and disposed of. How does that “help” the environment?


24 posted on 11/14/2013 9:35:11 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

“Where is the electricity coming from?”

From three possible sources:
1. A really long extension cord.
2. A magic battery.
3. A fuel cell orders of magnitude better than now exist.

Look, LOOK!

A Flying Unicorn!


25 posted on 11/14/2013 9:39:59 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Armen Hareyan
Popular Mechanics: NASA Jumps at Patent for Plasma-Powered flying saucer. Also, from Scientific American.

I came across an article in a Russian Aerospace mag some years ago, where they were also looking at this concept. I think the article made the additional claim that there were some stealth characteristics to the design.

26 posted on 11/14/2013 9:41:05 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: GladesGuru

I love Unicorns!


27 posted on 11/14/2013 9:41:39 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Armen Hareyan
You all are forgetting about the concept of transmitting power (electricity) w/o wires. This would remove the constraints of batteries or a power generation system.

Think of it as an airplane w/o an gas tanks. The benefits of not transporting the weight of an energy reserve would be huge!

Using energy to super heat the moisture of air into thrust or spinning many smaller turbines at high rpm might do it.

My battery RC aircraft outperform the gas planes hands down.

Yes, it is possible...someday!

28 posted on 11/14/2013 9:44:45 AM PST by mr_hammer (A man becomes truly great when he realizes who always walks beside him.)
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To: EEGator
Where is the electricity coming from?

Pixie dust, of course!

29 posted on 11/14/2013 10:05:47 AM PST by BwanaNdege (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. J.F. Kennedy)
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To: Armen Hareyan

“Control tower... we have a fire on board”


30 posted on 11/14/2013 10:29:46 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: mr_hammer

Are gas airplane engines that bad?

I mean we’re talking 9:1 energy density difference.


31 posted on 11/14/2013 10:37:37 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: mr_hammer
"You all are forgetting about the concept of transmitting power (electricity) w/o wires. This would remove the constraints of batteries or a power generation system."

Awesome! Aim a 400 Megawatt death ray at a tin can full of passengers. What could go wrong?

32 posted on 11/14/2013 10:41:53 AM PST by infool7 (The ugly truth is just a big lie.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Is he driving a Tesla? Is he flying on his rocket? Is he using Google incognito...

...Some would say he is just part of a new wave of inventors, envelope-edge pushers, risk takers...

In some ways he reminds me of Bill Lear who invented the car radio, airplane radio-compass and autopilot, and the eight-track tape player. His most famous invention being the Learjet, which became the world's first supplier of corporate jets. Yet for every brilliant, world changing idea he developed, he'd go haring off on some new interest which would consume his personal fortune along with any investors he could attract. His last project being steam powered Buses (don't see any of them around either!).

Until someone figures out how to store electricity w/out a battery (super cool the electrons and store them in a thermos bottle? call it a "juice jug") and develops a way to produce thrust without conventional motors (magnetic levitation, linear accelerators, plasma thrusters?), electric airplanes are the stuff of science fiction. The potential thrust to drag ratio is enough to keep them grounded. As for VTOL capability you might as well ask for "anti-gravity". I'd hate to guess how you could even start on something like that (lighter than air is a good approximation but unlikely to hit MACH speeds!)

Regards,
GtG

PS Bill Lear was presented with a screw driver with the blade mounted to the handle using ball bearings. The "tool" was presented to Mr Lear by his chief engineer who told him "Now you can screw around with the design without destroying it!"

PPS Nickola Tesla was a man so far ahead of his time as to be freightening. It may be said that he "invented" the world we live in.

"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." Nikola Tesla

"Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine." Nikola Tesla

33 posted on 11/14/2013 3:16:12 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: mr_hammer
You all are forgetting about the concept of transmitting power (electricity) w/o wires. This would remove the constraints of batteries or a power generation system.

I suppose you could dry your cat in the microwave too, but I expect the Mr. Pusskins might object.

Regards,
GtG

PS I always thought that a couple acres of photovoltaic cells with a microwave downlink in high orbit would make a nice clean energy resource (and a damn fine death ray if needed).

G

34 posted on 11/14/2013 3:29:52 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: EEGator

Perhaps, but not much longer.

http://nextbigfuture.com/2013/11/koreans-say-graphene-supercapacitors.html


35 posted on 11/15/2013 5:09:43 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: zeugma
I wonder what would happen if an electric plane were to be struck by lightning.

It'd start to go really fast?

36 posted on 11/15/2013 5:19:27 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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