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The Lawlessness of the ‘Fix’ by Andrew C. McCarthy
National Review ^ | Nov 16, 2013 | Andrew C McCarthy

Posted on 11/16/2013 8:01:43 AM PST by Innovative

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To: Innovative

You cannot fix stupid... but you can repeal it.


21 posted on 11/16/2013 8:53:08 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Travis McGee

Your cartoon is right on the money — sad but true. This is exactly how it meant to work.


22 posted on 11/16/2013 9:14:01 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Mister Da

I think both our arguments have merits. I subscribe to the notion these guys were into this from day one. BTW, not all insurance companies are for profit. In fact, the largest healthcare ones are not for profit: BS/BC and Kaiser to name a few. If you recall at the outset of the debate about O care, non of the insurance companies uttered one word against it, they were bought off in my mind. You believe they were forced to acquiese. One of us will be correct but the result is the same, the public got screwed.


23 posted on 11/16/2013 12:13:40 PM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Pollster1
I don't think the Left expects a Republican President to be elected in the future. They almost have enough safe Democratic states for an electoral college majority--a Republican has to sweep nearly all of the up-for-grabs states to win. With the increasing Hispanic population a couple of the up-for-grabs states will become safely Democratic and some Republican states will be up-for-grabs.

They figure on Hillary winning in 2016 and 2020, and another Democrat after her.

24 posted on 11/16/2013 12:21:48 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Innovative

Obama and the Democrats are Law-Less because Republican Leaders are BALL-LESS!!


25 posted on 11/16/2013 12:27:45 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Travis McGee

THAT is EXACTLY what I’ve been screaming about!!! Conservatives will NOT get the Health Care that Liberals will get.....they KNOW HOW WE VOTE and WHO WE GIVE MONEY TO!!! The DEATH PANELS WILL ENFORCE THIS.


26 posted on 11/16/2013 12:29:28 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Innovative

A 1st aid manual: http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/army/fm4_25x11.pdf


27 posted on 11/16/2013 12:33:04 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: AMDG&BVMH
The article does a good job of explaining that the insurers will not have legal immunity.

There is no difference than with the delay of the business mandate.

28 posted on 11/16/2013 12:35:31 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Eagletest; Travis McGee
When John Roberts defined this whole mess as a tax, the correct response is “it wasn't enacted in the congress, and therefore can't be a tax.”

House members file brief for PLF’s “Origination Clause” challenge to Obamacare

29 posted on 11/16/2013 2:31:34 PM PST by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Just because Obama promises not to prosecute your ins co does not mean that “substandard” coverage limits would stand up in civil court. A law passed by Congress would be necessary, and the Republicans have passed it in the House -but Obama says he would veto that law.


30 posted on 11/16/2013 4:39:30 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Mouton
Excellent post, Mouton.

I had not thought about this issue from your perspective.

Another problem is that our Republican leadership has no strategic plan and no political passion to repeal ObamaCare.

So far, all the political damage to Obama has been inflicted by a slightly embarrassed MSM, not by Republicans.

It is just a question time until the MSM does what it always does - defend Democrats and assault Republicans.

31 posted on 11/16/2013 4:46:54 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

“Obama says he would veto that law”

Just saying too, he would veto putting into actual LAW what he would PRETEND to do by fiat.

Can’t have it both ways. Except in rhetorical hyperbole, at which he (used to) excell(s).


32 posted on 11/16/2013 5:14:52 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: Pollster1
Do the Dems know what precedent is being set by Obama’s lawlessness? If you ever want some entertainment, ask some Dems what they would think if President Palin four years from now chose which laws to enforce and which to waive the way that Obama does with immigration, ObamaCare, and the rest of his pet projects in creative government. I’d rather return to the rule of law - now - but if this is how the far left fringe is bankrupting our country, I’m willing to go with four years of payback.
33 posted on 11/17/2013 2:27:29 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Mouton

There was some protest early on...then the carot of forced coverage, and guarantees against losses, combined with the stick of being locked out of the insurance market for four years if they didn’t play, along with needing administration - and state allies - approval to be allowed to offer plans kicked in. There WERE reports of complaint, and of threats, but they went away quickly.


34 posted on 11/19/2013 10:33:21 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Innovative

“FISA governs foreign intelligence surveillance. It requires the executive branch to get a judicial warrant before it can eavesdrop on alien terrorists and other foreign agents who threaten national security.”

It requires the executive branch to get a judicial warrant for domestic surveillance of foreign agents...not just any surveillance. That said, even if the example is flawed in reality, it reflects the Liberal convenient interpretation for it.


35 posted on 11/19/2013 10:38:03 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Ah...he addresses that here:

First, when Bush gave assurances to the telecoms — the assurances that Obama ridiculed — he actually had a solid constitutional argument, supported by several court precedents, that his warrantless wiretapping program was legal. That is, because the Constitution vests the president with supremacy over foreign intelligence collection, Bush was not required to comply with FISA warrant provisions. The telecoms were thus able to contend that since Bush’s request for eavesdropping assistance was legal, their compliance with it was legal.


36 posted on 11/19/2013 10:45:56 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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